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Uncategorized Tuesday, December 27th 2011 at 11:00 am

Public Relations Company Sends Horrible Emails to Customer, Gets Soundly Shamed by Penny Arcade [UPDATED]

The Internet allows people to post their grievances with just about anyone to an audience so earth-shatteringly wide that no matter the subject, even if it is something absurd that one would assume no one would agree with, people will agree with and take up arms in your Internet name. The Internet can be used the other way around as well, as a great tool for public relations. What happens when someone in public relations loses his cool at some poor customer who was only trying to find out the shipping date of a long-overdue Avenger controller? Why, the Internet becomes captivated, of course! The story is certainly helped by the fact that Mike Krahulik, otherwise known as Gabe of Penny Arcade was involved and posted the entire email corresponded chain to his website. The ridiculously absurd story, recounted after the break.

Customer Dave ordered a couple Avenger Controllers for Christmas, which obviously, he preferred to arrive in time to be put underneath the tree. He ordered the controllers within an appropriate timeframe in which they should’ve been delivered in time for the holidays. When he saw they weren’t even shipped out as the Christmas date neared, he sent an amiable email to the company, on December 16:

I ordered 2 of the upcoming PS3 controllers (invoice xxxxxxxxx—Nov 3, 2011). Any chance of getting an update of when these items will ship? I’m not really happy about being forced to pay upfront then have the advertised date of “Early December” be completely missed without any sort of update on availability. I really need one of them for a X-mas present as well. Anyways, looking forward to finally using one of these bad boys. Thanks and happy holidays.

To which he got a reply from Ocean Marketing PR guy, Paul Christofolo that simply read, “Dec 17.” Obviously, this was confusing, so Dave asked for clarification, if that was the date the controllers were being shipped. Paul replied with a seemingly amiable, though poorly structured answer:

They still haven’t shipped yet on the way here from china

Dave asked for further clarification once again, and Paul replied with a little more information this time that no, the estimated date of Christmas delivery would not be met. Then, December 26, Dave noticed that new orders for the controllers would receive a $10 discount, and since he hadn’t received his controllers yet, he wondered if the deal would apply to him, and if not, why he wouldn’t just cancel his orders since they didn’t arrive yet anyone, and place new orders to get the discount, which is where things took a turn for the worse. PR Paul replied:

Things happen in manufacturing if your unhappy you have 7 days from the day your item ships for a refund. You placed a pre order just like any software title the gets a date moved due to the tweaks and bugs not being worked out and GameStop or any other place holds your cash and im sure you don’t complain to activision or epic games so put on your big boy hat and wait it out like everyone else. The benefit is a token of our appreaciation for everyone no one is special including you or any first time buyer . Feel free to cancel we need the units were back ordered 11,000 units so your 2 will be gone fast. Maybe I’ll put them on eBay for 150.00 myself. Have a good day Dan.

Yes, most people tend not to care about grammar and spelling on the Internet, but this email is from a pubic relations department. Yes, the customer’s name is Dave, not Dan. Dave obviously became frustrated, and included Penny Arcade, Kotaku, and a few other outlets into the email chain. Sending out the following email:

Then cancel my order if you want to.  I’m making a legitimate complaint about your poor communication and you’re the one stooping to childish levels, a patronizing attitude, and threats.  Hell you can’t even get the spelling of my name right.

And Gamespot pre-orders…wow what a terrible comparison.  Retailers take a couple dollars IF THAT for you to guarantee your game availability on the release date, whatever that is. That’s the understanding and that’s what you get.  Plus, I don’t have to complain to Activision or Epic games about these issues because they’re usually not missing the street dates for their AAA titles.

The above responded was followed by a long, detailed list of generally good points, all of which can be read over on Penny Arcade. PR Paul responded with an equally long email, name-dropping recognizable video game outlets, such as Kotaku, IGN, and Engadget, and includes such gems as:

Son Im 38 I wwebsite as on the internet when you were a sperm in your daddys balls and before it was the internet, thanks for the welcome to message wurd up.

And:

See you at CES , E3 , Pax East ….? Oh wait you have to ask mom and pa dukes your not an industry professional and you have no money on snap you just got told.

The PAX comment grabbed Mike Krahulik’s attention, so he joined in on the email chain, letting Customer Dave know that if this PR Paul fella has a booth at PAX, Penny Arcade will cancel it. PR Paul replied:

We’re not renting a booth at pax east this year , bigger and better shows to be at we got nothing from the show . Oh so you know this guy has sold over 500 thousand dollars of product in Dec and is my main distribution arm landing us in GameStop , fry’s , Myers , Best buy , Activision , MLG , play N trade and a lot more . Were in 6 countries and you’re not going to take my money for a booth that’s a crock I can guarantee I’ll get a booth if I want one money buys a lot and connections go even further.  He’s a native Bostonian from Little Italy . Who are you again ?

Mike simply responds informing PR Paul who he is, and that he will never allow Paul to have a booth at his convention. Paul sent an amusing reply, full of name-drops, claiming that he knows everyone who “runs” Boston, which is where PAX East is located, and that his connections trump Penny Arcade’s ownership of the show, and also he doesn’t want to go to their show anyway:

OK Mike whatever you say lol , are you sure hour not in Boston I spoke to the person who ran the show in Boston last year. If you let some little kid influence you over a pre order then we don’t want to be a your show ,Ill be on the floor anyway so come find me , I’m born and raised in Boston I know the people who run the city inside and out watch the way you talk to people you never know who they know it’s a small industry and everyone knows everyone. Your acting like a douchbag not that it matters pax east pax west , e3 , CES , Gamer Con , SSXW ,Comic Con, Germany I’m all over the place. If we want to be there we will be there with industry badges or with a booth you think I can’t team up with turtle beach , Callibur or Koy Christmas , I can’t get Kevin Kelly to pull some strings or G4 , Paul Eibler Ex CEO of take 2 ,  Rich Larocco Konami , Cliff Blizinski Epic who were working with on a gears version , Activision who were working with on a MW3 and Spider man Bundle , The Convention Center Owners themselves , Mayor of Boston come on Bud you run a show that’s all you do and lease a center in Cities you have no pull in its all about who you know not what you do.

Paul’s formatting, not ours. Mike replied that yes, he does indeed run PAX, as well as a little website called Penny Arcade. PR Paul’s tune immediately changed:

Mike I’m not trying to fight with you I’m really not , you should give me the benefit of the doubt before judging over one person’s bitching . Did I feed into his emails a little bit too much yeah ok . But it’s one person dude for real. No disrespect intended for you , My name is good in this industry and I know a lot of people. I’ll be at CES are you going ?

Mike then asks to be removed from the email list, and Paul immediately changes his tune back to obnoxious, claiming his team of 125 dedicated PR people will run a smear campaign on Penny Arcade. The chain ends here, with Mike leaving PR Paul’s contact info over on the Penny Arcade post. If you’re annoyed at Paul’s treatment of Customer Dave or Penny Arcade, have fun, the contact info is at the bottom.

Every now and then, you get people you can’t even believe act like they do. In PR Paul’s case, you can’t believe he handles himself the way he does, especially when considering he is in the position of public relations. It just goes to show that for every awesome customer support representative or helpful and genuinely nice retail employee you come into contact with, there’s some lunatic who not only doesn’t seem to deserve his or her position, but it is legitimately confusing as to how said person even got there in the first place.

Unfortunately for the Avenger controller, which actually seems to be a pretty cool device, not all publicity is good publicity, opposite of what Paul says to Penny Arcade in one of his emails. Also, it probably doesn’t help the Avenger that this whole public relations nightmare began because the controllers aren’t exactly shipping.

UPDATED: Eli Schwartz, the new marketing manager for N-Control, the maker of the Avenger controller, sent us an email with a statement from the inventor and owner of the Avenger controller, David Kotkin, stating that Ocean Marketing, and Paul Christoforo, has been let go.

We apologize for our poor representation from Ocean Marketing. We wanted to give Paul a chance. He was rough around the edges, but he had drive and enthusiasm.

However his behavior was unprovoked, unnecessary, and unforgivable. We are no longer represented by Ocean Marketing.

Mike Krahulik also received an apology letter from PR Paul, which amusingly, began with apologizing for not knowing how big Penny Arcade is — not a sincere way to begin an apology:

Hey Mike,

I just wanted to apologize for the way our emails progressed I didn’t know how big your site was and I really didn’t believe you ran Pax , So for what’s its worth I am very sorry. Your post has obviously made my life very difficult and I have not slept yet dealing with all the spam and personal information intrusion as well as my family being smeared on the internet.

If you can please accept my apology and anything you can do to help if not me my son and wife please do. I have apologized to Dave and apologized to you what else can I do please tell me so I can make things good. I obviously care or I would not be emailing you.

As Mike puts it, it seems Paul is more sorry he got caught rather than simply sorry. At least N-Control did what was necessary to protect what is an otherwise cool controller.

(via Penny Arcade)

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  • Comradturkey

    I think I’ll wait for the MadKatz ripoff of the controller now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.hails Mike Pants

    The best bit for me is Ocean Marketing’s homepage, which boldly displays this quote: “Your brand is no stronger than your reputation and will increasingly depend on what comes up when you are Googled.”

    Try Googling “Ocean Marketing.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/Ripley.Andrew.j Andrew Ripley

    Almost wish I played console games so I could boycott the Avenger controllers too.

  • http://sdhardie.tumblr.com Sheila

    “Then, December 26, Dave noticed that new orders for the controllers would receive a $10 discount, and since he hadn’t received his controllers yet, he wondered if the deal would apply to him, and if not, why he wouldn’t just cancel his orders since they didn’t arrive yet anyone, and place new orders to get the discount, which is where things took a turn for the worse.”

    Please don’t harp on someone else’s grammar or syntax in an email until the above sentence is legible. (This website’s articles are nigh unreadable lately. What is going on over there??)

  • https://twitter.com/#!/haversam [A]

    Lovely exchange!

  • http://www.play-this.org/ Elliot S Volkman

    Dude! They deleted their twitter feed, someone grabbed it, and now the tweets show on their front page.

  • pdh

    Paul certain showed his hairy a$$. Pity for the company.

  • Bwhee

    Mike Pants…you’re dead on! I just about fell out of my chair when I read that choice quote on the homepage for Ocean Marketing. 

  • Guest

    As a native Bostonian, I would love to know where Little Italy is. Last I checked, the Italian neighborhood was called the North End, but I don’t have that many connections so I could be wrong.

  • Anonymous

    i mean it’s a run on sentence with a lot of commas but it’s completely readable and understandable.  unnecessary troll.

  • http://sdhardie.tumblr.com Sheila

    Hardly a troll, dear. Nice try, though. 

    I am pretty fluent in both English and Typo, and yet I’m not sure how, “why he wouldn’t just cancel his orders since they didn’t arrive yet anyone, and place new orders to get the discount” qualifies as “understandable” by any stretch of the imagination.  My only reason for bringing it up is that nearly every Geekosystem article I read anymore has errors like this in it, and it’s completely unnecessary. Did their editor quit? If they need a new one, I’d be happy to offer my services.

  • Jmc556

    “Yes, most people tend not to care about grammar and spelling on the
    Internet, but this email is from a pubic relations department.”

    Ummm, irony much?

  • Sax5chic

    it’s not a controller, it’s and adapter…

  • nevermind, gimme my money back

    Canceled my order due to this story. Any company who would hire anyone as stupid and childish as this are clearly amateur hour, and any trouble I encounter in the future would likely be handled just as well as this.

  • TEST

    @sdhardie:disqus   Quit Nit Picking,  if bad grammar pisses you off, then get the hell of the internet.

  • http://CRZ.net/ CRZ

    Gee, if Sheila’s comment pisses YOU off, you shouldn’t have read it!

  • GeekOsystem

    Cunt.

  • Siont’agnan

    Haha — even better now, try Googling “Paul Christoforo”…  Even if this guy scraps his marketing company and tries to start or hook up with a different one, he’s permatoast now.  :D

  • Brimstonesacrifice18

    Don’t boycott the controller, just the 3rd party marketing company. The controller/adapter was invented/developed by a teacher so that one of his disabled students could use a controller. 

  • Mrlowerfrenum

    Honestly i purchased the controller adapter for the xbox.. It was missing pieces.  i used the contact us tool on the page no response as well as the two phone numbers i could locate.. still have an avenger with missing pieces.

  • Anonymous

    Somebody needs to quit handing out PR jobs to their 15 year old cousins.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t have to… Nobody’s using them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Timothy-Groote/1784070942 Timothy Groote

    Yes, most people tend not to care about grammar and spelling on the Internet, but this email is from a pubic relations department.
    pubic relations department…

    really?

  • Bisous

    you just the entire english language

  • Asreal

    All the name-dropping and arrogance proves that he was absolutely ideal for a job in public relations; the art of bullshitting.  A field he has basically run himself out of by being a dick :)

    It`s a crying shame that this moron stated believing his own crap.  I just hope he continues to get what he deserves – he`ll probably be the type to turn this kind of notoriety to his advantage…

  • Anonymous

    Well, even putdz’s have families. Hopefully this guy gets another schtick and learns to be better behaved.

  • Anonymous

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  • Xq

    My 8-year-old cousin has a better grasp of spelling, grammar, manners, and cause and effect than this individual. I find it hard to believe that anyone ever hired him to do public relations in the first place. I am sure his resume alone looks as though it was written by a first-grader in the slow reading group. How did he get the job (or any job that didn’t involve slinging cheeseburgers) in the first place?

  • Eduard Schmelzer

    “pubic relations department”?
    That might explain some things.

  • http://twitter.com/kaitzi K G

    But the article didn’t harp on “general understanding” it harped on spelling and grammar.  The emails from ocean were “understandable” but also painful to read.  I agree that Geekosystem’s been pretty hypocritical lately – if your grammar’s not correct, don’t harp on someone else’s.  

  • http://twitter.com/kaitzi K G

    What is wrong with you.

  • Anonymous

    “Yes, most people tend not to care about grammar and spelling on the Internet, but this email is from a pubic relations department.”

    Please say this was intentional.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LNZ5ZLDEI6OGNMH2HM53UGQCQU Guy Smiley

    Funny how folks who say “you should be careful of who you talk to like that, b/c you never know who they know” never seem to understand that the logic also works in reverse.  In this case… the customer knew enough to get some heavy-hitters involved, and they handled this in a much more professional manner than the PR guy even though they had all rights to just blast this guy.  I just love the whole “do you know who you’re talking to?!”  No, I don’t.  But, apparently neither do you, or else you wouldn’t be acting like a royal d-bag.

  • Anonymous

    That was crazy, name dropping half the industry and alluding to organized crime connections. And then only being sorry that he messed with a bigger fish tham himself. This guy and his family probably walk a rough and lonely road at times. I hope his kid learns from his dad’s mistakes.

    P.S. I’m relieved that PR Paul wasn’t the owner of the company in some one-man show. The controller looked good and I was sad that I couldn’t order one on principal.

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    your PR agency has to work along with your business. The agency will be vital in molding the public opinion about your business. It will devise strategies for everything ranging from tactical execution to partnership building to media relations.Thus, get to know a lot about the agency, about how well reputed and experienced it is before hiring it.

  • Guest

    Pablic relations involves managing and evaluating community behaviour, and maintaining mutual relations and understanding between an company and its community. The function of community interaction is to improve programs of interaction and to institution new ways of setting up a two-way flow of information and understanding.