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Uncategorized Friday, January 21st 2011 at 4:59 pm

Allow Us To Explain: Bane

I’ve been looking forward to this article ever since it was announced that Bane would be appearing in The Dark Knight Rises, and not just because the title rhymes.  I’ve been looking forward to it because Bane is awesome, and not many people outside of comics fans have much of an idea of who he is.  This is because his appearances in media outside of comics and cartoons have been pretty much limited to two: he was an almost unnoticeable tertiary badguy in that movie-that-shall-not-be-named Batman & Robin, and he was the first boss fight in Batman: Arkham Asylum.

But there’s much more to Bane than just “the Mexican wrestler guy who’s on steroids,” so allow me to explain why he makes my short list of awesome Batman villains that most people don’t even know exist.

(Which also includes Mr. Zsasz.  Yes, I freaking loved Batman: Arkham Asylum.)

Bane’s Origin

The common misinterpretation of Bane is that he is exactly how he is portrayed in Batman & Robin: a mook.  A strong man.  Big muscles, tiny brain.

This is exactly half-right.  Here’s the deal with Bane:

Bane’s father was convicted and sentenced to life in prison by the courts of Santa Prisca (a made up autocratic Caribbean island), but fled the country before he could be interred in La Peña Dura, Santa Prisca’s Chateau d’If.  This was not a problem for the Santa Priscan courts, and they did what they usually did in these circumstances: they transferred the sentence to the criminal’s offspring.  This was only slightly complicated by the fact that Bane hadn’t actually been born yet.  His pregnant mother was carted off to La Peña and imprisoned there to birth and nurse him.

It should be no surprise that she died when Bane was still quite young.  When he was eight, in an effort to ingratiate himself with a relatively benevolent inmate by performing a requested favor, Bane stabbed a sleeping convict more than three dozen times, murdering him.  He was sentenced to solitary confinement until he reached the age of eighteen, in a cell that filled to the ceiling grate with water at each high tide.  Bane took this opportunity to teach himself to swim.

Throughout his childhood, Bane had a series of recurring dreams in which an older version of himself appeared to him and essentially told him that he was going to grow up to be the baddest motherfucker in the world… except for this terrifying spectral bat-demon.

This dream was given clarity when a native of Gotham City wound up in La Peña Dura, and told Bane all about the Batman, which was also was right about the time that Bane was made the primary test subject for an experimental steroid code-named Venom.  Sensing that his destiny lay more than a thousand miles north, Bane broke out of La Peña, his Gothamite buddy in tow and the secret of Venom’s manufacture safe in his head.

At this point, Bane is roughly twenty years old, at most no older than the first Robin.  He arrives in Gotham city, watches Bruce Wayne get out of a car and walk into a society event and deduces (based on his observations of Batman and how Wayne carries himself) that Batman and Bruce Wayne are the same person.  Then he and a small gang steal a bunch of shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles and use them to break large holes in Arkham Asylum.  Police and the Bat-family are at a loss: they have no idea who this gang is led by and they prove incredibly elusive, leaving behind only a trail of dead prostitutes who someone appears to have murdered with his bare hands.

Bane waits for Batman to exhaust himself cleaning up the entire Rogues Gallery at the same time, and when he decides the time is right, he breaks into the Batcave through Wayne Manor.  After a night spent defeating the Joker and the Scarecrow working in tandem and (relatedly) escaping from a flooded commuter tunnel with a terrified civilian in tow, Batman stumbles back home to collapse, only to find a man he has never seen before standing in his cave.

Bane beats him up, and snaps him in half.  Then he brings Batman’s body to the middle of Gotham, throws him off a three-story building, and proclaims to the horrified onlookers that he rules Gotham City now.

In 1992, Superman fans got the death of Superman.  In 1993, the Knightfall story arc was essentially the death of Batman.  Writer Chuck Dixon hammered home the point that Bane had succeeded where no foe had before by breaking Batman emotionally as well as physically.  It was beside the point that Batman couldn’t fully recover from his injuries.  He didn’t even want to.

(The story of how Batman regained the use of his legs is long, weird, and… well, stupid, in the way that most attempts to retcon a permanent situation are.  It did, however, pave the way for a whole story arc of Batman fighting ninjas and Lady Shiva, which kind of made up for it.)

So that’s the deal with Bane.  Since Knightfall, Bane has become a considerably less evil character, having his butt later handed to him by a couple of different Batmans, surviving Venom withdrawal and swearing off the drug, going on a worldwide search for his father, making himself a formidable enemy of Ra’s al Ghul, and settling into a sort of true neutral alignment.

The half that other interpretations of Bane have missed is that he is a genius.  The only villain to ever completely (if temporarily) defeat Batman, at about two decades of age, after escaping from prison for the first time less than a year before.  He has a place on a very short list of people who have figured out, using only their own brains, that Batman is Bruce Wayne.

Bane in The Dark Knight Rises

And so the more I think about Bane in The Dark Knight Rises, the more excited I get, frankly. Why would you cast Tom Hardy to play him if you weren’t going to take advantage of the intellectual aspects of the character?

And if The Dark Knight Rises followed the plot of Knightfall, I might die of happiness, because then we might get to see the conclusion of the story, Nightsend, which would take us right back to the thing that made Batman Begins so fun: ninjas.

Lots and lots of ninjas.

I’ve described the training regimen (if it can rightly be called that) that Batman uses to get back in shape after Knightsend in an old post of ours called The 15 Best Exercises from Training Montages.

Back in the early nineties Bruce Wayne had to take a break from being Batman due to spinal injuries, and when he came back he had to train hard enough to be able to take the costume back from the guy he had left it with, who had gone completely insane in the interim. How?  Well, he’s Batman.  Some sit ups and a few laps around the track aren’t even in his vocabulary.

He went to Lady Shiva, the greatest assassin in the world, and got her to train him. Shiva really wanted to fight Batman, but she considers anyone who hasn’t killed someone in combat to be unworthy of her. So, she tries to trap him in a situation where he has to kill. Here’s how:

She puts on the mask of a Japanese bat demon. She kills an armless ninja master (“This is how one kicks!”). Then she gives Batman the mask, and lets the master’s seven greatest students track him down. Batman is eventually forced to fake killing one of them in order to keep Shiva from sending yet another after him, which only results in Shiva informing him that now they can fight for real and she will do her best to kill him. Someday. When he least expects it.

GOD I love comics from the 90’s.

And Christopher Nolan could really go very far with his Batman returning to what is left of Ra’s al Ghul’s organization to whip him back into shape.  There’s still one more female lead character to be announced in the movie.  Talia al Ghul has been a popular supposition, but what if it was Lady Shiva?

But even if Bane isn’t the main villain of TDKR (or even a villain.  He could very well be a neutral secondary character!) it will be great to see his intelligence given justice in a mainstream adaptation of him, even if he’s just an underling to Hugo Strange, who still holds the “most solid and persistently rumored villain” spot.

Additionally, it’s worth pointing out that all of the new characters that are officially or strongly rumored to appear in TDKR (Selina Kyle, Bane, and Hugo Strange) are characters who know Batman’s secret identity.  Just food for thought.

A Tom Hardy Related Caveat

I like Tom Hardy and I have a lot of faith in Christopher Nolan, but seriously: Bane is Hispanic.  There is no getting around it.  He’s from a Spanish named Caribbean island and speaks Spanish as his first language.  Bane is a person of color.  Nolan got a pass for casting a white guy (and technically also two Asian guys) as the completely Arab Ra’s al Ghul when he re-characterized the Demon’s Head as a man who cultivates an image of immortal mysticism that has little connection to his actual person. This is his second opportunity to utilize one of the few non-white villains in DC comics, and I would have expected better.

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  • Billsimons

    Uh, could it be that all Hispanic actors either a) suck and/or b) aren’t famous enough? Who gives a shit? Hardy rules!

  • Anonymous

    Yes. All Hispanic actors in the world suck, each and every one of them. Thanks for your input, Bill. We’ll pick up this conversation after 2040. I’ll come visit you in the camps.

    Well done, Polo. Some thoughts on this subject: “Talia al Ghul has been a popular supposition, but what if it was Lady Shiva?”

    I’m getting the vibe that Nolan may combine the characters, considering what he did with Ra’s and the Demon’s Head. It would make the most sense in terms of consolidating plot lines. If they follow the proper Bane story, then being retrained by Demon’s Head would make the most sense and bring the trilogy full circle.

  • Jstealth89

    great article, btw just because Bane is Hispanic doesn’t mean he is a “person of color” i was born in the Caribbean and have Spanish ancestry and I am whiter than most of my white friends. So i can see Tom Hardy doing the part no problem.

  • Issunboshi

    A person of color just means someone who isn’t guilty of the specific race crimes of white people. Obviously, race has nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with us vs. them, no matter what race you consider yourself.

  • Issunboshi

    People who aren’t white, Billsimons. But why would you care about that?

  • http://twitter.com/dardarness dardarness

    Bane was six when his mother died, plus 10 years in solitary confinement, he’d be 16 or okay, may 16-18 when got out of prison. Am reading the novelization of Batman: Knightfall right now, so…

  • Anonymous

    That novelization is pretty much my primary source for this article. If I remember correctly, Bane didn’t escape immediately after getting out of solitary, and spent a few years rising in the prison-yard hierarchy before he was put on Venom and met a guy from Gotham, which would put his age at somewhere in his early twenties when he broke out. I got the age of eight for committing his first murder from the Wikipedia article on him.

    But I digress: I found the novel to be a mixed bag. Getting a firm origin for Bane was great, but I didn’t find the rest of it to be very engaging. Although there’s a conversation later on between Bruce and Lady Shiva regarding his mask that is pretty hilarious.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_U2TKZ373YWXVO5YD7HFDBEYS5Y JamesT

    You’re just as ignorant as Billsimons. Just because a person is white does not mean they are guilty of race crimes. And news flash every race on this planet is or has been guilty of race crimes in the past. Including whatever race you are. Educate yourself.

  • RevHBSnood

    Bane is from a South American country and presumably Hispanic on his mother’s side, but his father is a white man who was born and raised in London

  • rufusaqui

    Nolan also said this is the last Batman he is doing..

  • Anonymous

    Yes, and that is too bad. Nolan seems to be the only one who can make a decent Batman Film…

  • Carver55

    Bear with the “fanboy” moment for a second, but just watched TDK on tv this weekend and noticed a few quotes. Not saying that they were obvious clues that Nolan gave us, but, curious about thoughts on them now that Catwoman and Bane have been made official. First is the obvious “should do fine against cats” line from Fox (I don’t really think Nolan was thinking this far ahead and was more of just a shoutout to the fanbase, although given his filmmaking, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was thinking this far ahead). But more importantly with Bane and the comic story of how Bane essentially tested the Batman’s limits and wore him down. There is this exchange:

    Alfred Pennyworth: Know your limits, Master Wayne.
    Bruce Wayne: Batman has no limits.
    Alfred Pennyworth: Well, you do, sir.
    Bruce Wayne: Well, can’t afford to know ‘em.

    Again, not 100% convinced that it is related at all to Bane, but again given the choice, it does seem to hint at what is coming.

    THoughts anyone?

  • Anonymous

    Great article aside from all the grammar mistakes. I honestly don’t think its a big deal that Bane isn’t being played by a hispanic actor. There are a multitude of factors that go into the casting of a film. In fact you’re passing a judgement onto what someone who is hispanic or from the caribbean should look like and hat is, well, racist by definition. This is a movie, a new interpretation of preexisting characters. They don’t have to follow exactly what the comics have laid out. Have you not realized this yet with the Nolan/Goyer universe, aside from the few instances you’ve mentioned?

  • Skull with Cigarette

    Still say Bane, like Doomsday, is a one-trick pony. Just because he’s a “genius” doesn’t make him any less one dimensional. It doesn’t take away that he’s a character created out of a lack of creativity during a period when comic books needed a serious boost in sales. Its no accident that the breaking of Batman came one year after the Death of Superman.
    He’s goofy looking with a goofy origin and with the exception of a few stories here and there the current Suicide Squad, just used as fodder these days.
    Here look: I just invented Doctor Smart Pants. Doctor Smart Pants was born yesterday, grew to be a full adult in 23 hrs and already figured out that Bruce Wayne is Batman.
    How CHEAP is that? And you wanna call that creative or dynamic? Hardly.

    No offense to Chuck Dixon, a comic veteran… but I liked his old Gi Joe books from the 80s better than Bane.

    The only reason I don’t groan at the next film is simply because it’s Chris Nolan. If anyone can make Bane interesting and not the cheap pop that he is, it will be Nolan.

  • Lisandro

    There are plenty white hispanic, as a matter of fact in countries like argentina and uruguay white hispanics are 90% of the population. Hispanic or latino is not a race, it’s an etnicy; Susan Polo, your comments show how racist you are, shame on you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=15604850 Joe Conroy

    There’s a similar line in Knightfall, if memory serves. While Batman is swimming in the flooded tunnel, he has an inner monologue during which he goes over his training and what he’s had to do to create Batman.

    At one point, I think he says something along the lines of “I’ve had to find my limits… and then exceed them.”

    I thought the same as you when I heard Bane was the/a villain for Dark Knight Rises.

  • Kylejacobson84

    It was always Nolan’s goal to create a trilogy, but the Joker was to be the focus of the second and third movie with others making cameos, and playing important roles along the way (Tom Hardy). His thoughts may have included Bane playing a role, but I doubt it was to be the main focus. I guess a small part of me was hoping for a little more Zsasz in the in trilogies finale. He was in Batman Begins, so I thought it a possibility, but probably just a cameo if anything.

    Anyways, I hope Bane is not misrepresented as I find him to be far from a one dimensional character, but I can see how his having basically only one motive could be construed as such (another post stated he was a bit one dimensional like Doomsday). It is true that Venom is Bane’s bane, but I love that he seems to want to do the right thing in a very disagreeable fashion. Though not the best comparison, I see this Hitleresque reasoning behind his actions to be intriguing and create a depth to the character that makes me often question his motives regardless of what he says they are.

    This coming movie could really close a wonderfully portrayed story which, though based on various series and graphic novels, I hope is thought of as a vital series in the DC Universe. I know there will be those who are so dedicated to various writers and the series core being in the illustrated media that they will not agree that the movies should hold any validity in the Batman Universe. To those I cannot argue as there is much evidence to support their side, but I digress. The story itself appeals to many hardcore fans of the comics (such as myself) along with movie buffs. I trust Nolan can deliver something that appeases both of these types of people as well as all the other people who have various reasons for finding these films quite beastly (in a good way). Bane and Catwoman can help show what it truly means to be a hero in society, hopefully on a global and domestic scale, and the trilogy can convey the idea that no matter how horrible things get, as long as people are willing to do the right thing when no one else will or can, it is always possible to get things to develop in a positive fashion, and hopefully that will be enough to motivate others to do the same. (Preemptive apology for this who disagree with my idea of what the trilogy could represent to society. As an English Teacher (maybe someday professor… but who knows) I find that this work has potential to be more than just a movie as other films have done in the past.

    I know I mentioned I am an English Teacher, but I must add that I make grammatical errors and do not wish to have them pointed out to me :)

  • Kylejacobson84

    Tom Hardy was supposed to be Harvey Dent… my mind was probably on the article and I may be mildly retarded.

  • Guest

    what do you mean “the title rhymes”? There’s nothing that rhymes about The Derk Knight Rises

  • NatAnn64

    uh, i didn’t bother to read the other comments, bu is anyone else super sad that so far no one has mentioned the Riddler? i’m a purest, and i wants me some riddle-filled goodness! And frankly, screw Johnny Depp, that one guy who played doctor who whom i can’t remember the name of would be the best ever.
    hey diddle, diddle
    let’s write in the riddle

    in the next Batman movie…i’ll leave the clever shit to him.

  • Spreaddozer

    damn if bane isn’t a white guy they should’ve casted javier bardem instead

  • Blitsen331

    Jesus Christ will you bleeding heart assh*les stop bringing race into EVERYTHING? Hardy is on top right now and thats how the Hollywood game is played.Who would be better,John Leguizamo?Freddie Prinze Jr.? George Lopez?Fez from that 70′s show? Get over It already….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cracka-Smile/100000035896605 Cracka Smile

    Who cares what the ethnicity of any character is really? Who they are and how they move the story forward is whats most important. C’mon now!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cracka-Smile/100000035896605 Cracka Smile

    I think they meant the title of the article. How to explain…Bane. Get it?

  • Allan

    I do not doubt, that this Tom Hardy whom I have never heard
    of before, might  an excellent actor, but
    even that bane is a genius and all, I don’t think it is a Character that any wrestler
    with an action movie or two can’t do, I mean, the man is a criminal, he does
    not cry, he does not laugh (well maybe after braking batman)  and I don’t expect much emotions coming out of
    a criminal Genius the only thing I could expect is a good batman bane fight…and
    of course an actor that will make me shiver when he says “I’ll break you” this
    guy tom does not make that or me, just my opinion , so yes, I expected a
    mountain of muscles… (remember when everybody held their breath when Ivand Drago
    stepped in to de ring)every body said ”a la chigada” that’s the feeling…BTW
    color of skin is irrelevant since in the comic I’ve seen bane color depending
    on the ink artist own perception so it goes from than to light from one comic
    to another. And ethnicity does not assure skin color. Greetings from Mexico J   

  • Guest4932987

    It’s funny how some believe that Tom Hardy is going to play Bane. It’s way too early in the story for that. Bane is a red-herring. Tom Hardy will play non-other than Dr. Hugo Strange. Remember one of the interviews with Gary Oldman? He said that the villain was one from way back in the earlier comics.

  • http://twitter.com/Sanctum1972 Sanctum1972

    GeekosystemSusana, I need to correct you. Bane is half-hispanic and
    british. It was shown that Bane’s real father was revealed to be King
    Snake in one storyline called The Death of Bane. It was originally
    supposed to be LeHah, the arch-enemy of the original Azrael, but it was
    never to be.

    So, in essence, he is of both nationalities. And yes, Bane is one of the
    greatest villains to b—-hslap Batman left and right. And he will
    break him. ONE. MORE. TIME.

  • Anonymous

    Imagine yourself being in the same room with a man with the mind of Hannibal Lecter and all pure muscle. Would you want to be in the same room with him? Bane and General Zod will b—slap Batman and Superman next year. Nobody is invincible. Not even you. Not even your favorite ‘goody two shoes’ heroes. Somebody’s about to get their a$$ kicked and humbled.

  • Super-cerdo

    Batman cant die, he has a lot of money! I would be so boring if he pass away.

  • Luvaboii

    Christopher Nolan is going to show the audience the emotional reasons why Bane is who he is. That requires serious acting. Tom Hardy can do that…so well. 

    You don’t just need a brute for this. You need a Bane with real emotion…look: your mother is dead, dad messed up and because of him you are trapped in prison from birth? Forced to kill, become the most cunning and educated inmate solely to survive? Then you have nightmares of a bat-demon as a child/teen and learn Batman exists? That requires ACTING to portray – lots of it. Go on YouTube and watch Tom Hardy in “Martina  Cole’s – The Take”…depending on what John and Chris Nolan give Tom hardy, this could be his Oscar chance. Together they can do this.

  • Finalstar86

    You sir  have no clue what you’re talking about,Bane is nothing like Doomsday.I’ve read every comic with Bane and almost every comic with Doomsday and let me tell you that the characters have no similarity.Bane was concieved to be the anti-batman,Doomsday was concieved as a plotdevice and remains so till this day.The Doomsday character has no fixed powerset,one second he’s owning gods and the JLA next second Superman is  defeating him solo.Bane’s no more goofy looking than Joker and his origins are arguably the best out of all Batvillians.You talk about lack of creativity and dynamic? how about guys like Joker,Two-face etc killing random people and then going to Arkham then coming out again killing people all over again,then going back to Arkham only to escape AGAIN.Sorry but THIS is cheap storytelling.Your comment on Suicide Squad is also off the mark,Bane’s character was derailed during that period just like certain others(Deathstroke being another example),but it was’nt long before he was back on track again.Bane happens to be one of the most consistent characters ever.You don’t have a problem with Batman mastering all martial arts,learing all scientific disciplines etc but you have a problem with Bane? seriously WTF.
    Saying that Bane and Doomsday are the same thing is like saying that the Army and the Navy are the same.An overlapping comparision means squat,Bane has more in common  with the likes of Ra’s al Ghul,Doctor Doom and Venom whereas Doomsday is just another monster.
    Bane is NOT a cheap pop,and he’s only lost to Batman once due to his own arrogance,same goes for Azrael.He only lost to AZ due to the venom withdrawal effects,he met Az later and defeated him.That part of the article is wrong.

  • http://cheezburger.com/BattlestarEnterprise Senor Chang

    So… I get 2 replies from complete wack jobs to this?  Makes me embarrassed to be a comic collector.

    I’ve got one guy telling me that fictional characters are going to kick the asses of other fictional heroes and be ‘humbled’, while another guy is trying to tell me that just because a writer/creator puts a lot of effort into characterization, that somehow makes the character any more legitimate than the next.

    I could write an entire novel on the history of Dr Smart Pants and delve deep into the fictional characters psyche to really flesh that character out.  It still doesn’t change the fact that I invented Dr Smart Pants as an immediate threat to a long-standing character because I have no other characters to pull from to do this.  its like making a King Kong movie and no one can stop King Kong and all of a sudden a giant robot with nuclear missile tits blows Kong to the moon. Cheap.

    Then this Angry Nerd is going to tell me how Bane goes from owning Batman to being a joke and somehow that’s called consistent?

    I don’t care how many stories you’ve read with Bane or that you like to shove Bane action figures in your pee-hole, it remains:  DC’s most powerful event involving Bane is him breaking Batman’s back… from that point forward, he has NEVER been used to such capacity or with such ‘shock value story telling’ impact.  

    In fact, to counter-act the wad they blew on having Bane own Batman, DC had to write stories where Bane gets 2nd and 3rd chances and forgiven, blah blah blah…. in other words:  In order to keep using the character Bane, all they could do is backpedal and take *away* from him.

    Ultimately, I don’t give a crap about your Trekkian-level fantacism/love of a character…  so sorry you got all butt hurt over it.  What I’m commenting on is cheap writing and sensational characters that are developed with no perceived weakness, written in to simply ‘destroy’ a ‘beloved’ character, and then has no further use in continuity without some sort of neutering involved.  I guess you would mistake that process or neutering as ‘character development’, huh?

    Bane was derailed… a good choice of terms there… and you can’t see why writers/editors would need to?

    And what of Joker and Two-Face?  Did I say I gave 2 craps about them either?  Psst… here’s a small clue since you’re too busy jerking off to Bane to pay attention:  They hardly ever use Joker as a villain anymore.  In the past 3 to 4 years, he’s only appeared as side character and maybe only been the main villain in 2 or 3 arcs somewhere between Detective, Batman and Batman & Robin.  Joker’s characterization is the sort an anti-Bane:  Joker has been around too long and there’s not much more to do with him, thus he’s used less frequently.  Bane’s character, in contrast, was a struck match that lit up then petered out, thus also not used frequently.

    Even WORSE is where is the fallout now of the Bane/Batman conflict?  Other than ‘the guy that broke Wayne’s back’ and convenient fictional street-drug used as plot device every now and again, what has been retained within Bruce Wayne’s characterization that still shows some affect of dealing with a character like Bane?  Nothing from what I can tell… meaning that Bane was conceived for the purpose of defeating Batman to sell comics.

    Other than all the above, I still look forward to the character in Nolan’s film because Nolan and Goyer have a great way of making the Batman characters more realistic and sensible than their comic book counterparts.

  • http://cheezburger.com/BattlestarEnterprise Senor Chang

    I heard your basement smells like a combination of Cheetos, jizz and sweat.  You need to get out more.

  • batmanfan

    Wow you really are an idiot are’nt you? do you even understand consistency?Bane does’nt grow claws out of thin air like Doomsday,Bane owned Batman in a very specific set of circumstances.His power levels,personality etc have been written in a consistent manner.The only exception being the derailed period i mentioned which was completly IGNORED by later writers and it only lasted maybe 18 issues or so(in a majority of which he was a background character).You think this outweighs the remaining almost 200 comics he has appeared in.
    Batman was concieved to sell money,Joker was concieved to be his enemy so what point are u making?Joker has appeared in Morrisons entire Batman saga(which lasted 4 years),was the main villian of Gotham City Sirens etc.

    The second and third chances were given to Riddler and Harvey as well,you’re prolly one of those morons who just wan’t a villian to do the same thing all over again.

  • batmanfan

    You dumb? Hardy is Bane have you even seen the pictures or the teaser?The old villian could well be Catwoman or even Talia.
    He also never said that the villian will be from the earliest comics,he said that the villian will be from old comics.BIG DIFFERENCE.For all we know he could well believe that comics published over 20 years ago are old.

  • Davo

    I like when white people tell me what racism is and what is not…

  • Davo

    Yeah, but is Tom Hardy from either of those countries? EXACTLY!
    And anyway, the Caribbean is pretty mixed/mulatto so it would follow that someone from the caribbean (albeit a fictitious island) would most probably be a person of color.
    It is important for little kids and teenagers to see themselves represented on every kind of media, and this is yet another a missed opportunity.

  • HalfDozenPsychos

    Race changes occur regularly with characters in films based on other media. Men in Black, Wild Wild West, Thor, and the upcoming Kane and Lynch film, just to name a few. Sometimes the changes actually happen within the comics themselves, as is the case with Green Lantern and Nick Fury. For the record nobody is guilty of crimes committed by other people who happened to have committed crimes. If that were the case then every one of Hispanic heritage is guilty of the murder of my friend’s dad.

  • David CC

    That does not mean, that there is not a problem with showing diversity within the comic/film industries, as well as the complacent people who stand for it. Diversity is not a requirement, but it does show to people of color that you are NORMAL…that people of color can be the same…imagine being black at the time where there were no black people on tv or film? blackface? meaning white people pretending to be black? how is this not a modern more subtle version of whitewashing a hispanic character to please an audience.

  • Freeman

    ‘us versus them’?
    Whoa.
    Talk about evil in the movies.
    Greetings from Mexico.

  • thefirerises

    i would only change two things a) the mask, why didn’t they just use a black and white luchador mask? and b) the obvious.why cast tom hardy when there are ALOT of hispanic actors who would fit the role. My personal choice? Danny trejo, the dude would be perfect as bane.

  • Jasonrabeau

    One question: Is Bane currently or was he ever a wrestler?

  • Vic

    Im hispanic and the actor doesn’t matter to me,
    BUT it would be nice to see a latino character played by a latino actor once in a while. Why can’t we be potrayed by our own people?

    BTW Danny Trejo would be the best Bane ever.

  • MannDiesel

    The Rock would have made a good Bane! (he can fake intelligence for the screen just like any other other would. That’s why it’s called ACTING!

  • tytto

    Bane’s dad is English, btw, King Snake. So he’s at least half white.

  • Willybomba

    Not all Hispanics are persons of color!!!!! You Americans can’t get over the fact that ther are hispanics that are WHITE. Maybe not Anglo…. But white for sure. They are the original white man that came to the America’s. Whatever.

  • Anthony

    Casting Bane as a white guy with a British accent did seem like a cop out on Nolan’s part, or whoever had the final decision in casting. Then again, with the abysmal sales Red Tails had and the racist backlash against the Hunger Games PROPERLY casting their darker skinned actors, maybe Nolan just didn’t want to deal with it.

  • Letscountsand

    Because Christopher Nolan can see into the future? And he uses this gift to see how audiences receive other movies in order to make casting decisions? Tom Hardy was cast over a year ago; Red Tails and The Hunger Games both came out in 2012.

  • luminak

    I’m from puerto rico and have skin most would consider ‘white.’ Hispanics come in ALL colors, we can be mulatto, or very dark skinned (very african looking i mean), or white. It REALLY depends. I think the REAL problem is with talia and ra’s who really are not caucasian. But Bane?! White hispanics exist people, deal with it.

  • Msrudegirl

    They should’ve stuck with a Mexican actor for bane :/ there are many excellent Hispanic actors, obviously these retards don’t know of any cuz their white lol anyways still good movie would’ve been cooler to have seen a big Mexican for bane and cat woman more feisty with red hair! :)

  • I am me and he is him

    NO NO NO NO NO!
    Right just to shut some people up first of all Tom Hardy is bad ass, brilliant actor and did great justice to this role Bane!

    Bane is not HISPANIC his actually Carribean (think about it……no really think about it) from the top
    Santa Prisca is in the Carribean not central, south America. 
    Bane father is english and nothing is explained about his mother who could be native to Santa Prisca (or of latino decent) or even english herself. WE DON’T KNOW! 

    It was a spanish colonial with strong influence of african slaves in the country. Just because its got a hispanic name does not make them Hispanic. Bane was most likely attracted towards the hispanic culture due to his up bringing in the prison

    His accent is spanish but remember his prison environment  aka the population. Majority could of been Spanish! My uncle is english but speaks with an irish accent because of his upbringing in Ireland! 

    Now there isn’t enough backstory to support that his hispanic. 

    And yes really what hispanic person could really do the role of Bane. Remember this isn’t Batman and Robin and i’m sure Bob Kane is turning in his grave due to that BASTARD film. This is a nolan take so expect there to be great actors his not a fool!

  • TDKRFAN

    *Facepalm* Did you even watch the movie if so did you listen to any of the talking discussions a such ? It clearly says that the Prison was in Uzbekistan(Former USSR,Central Asia) Where Bane was Born and where Bruce Wayne was kept.Therefore Bane’s mother was From Uzbekistan.

  • http://twitter.com/DStopper29 SwagStopper29

    If they weren’t white people wouldn’t have connected as quickly. Facts is facts.

  • http://twitter.com/DStopper29 SwagStopper29

    I like someone with a Japanese pseudonym accusing other races of race crimes.

  • http://twitter.com/DStopper29 SwagStopper29

    nobody cares actually