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Uncategorized Monday, November 22nd 2010 at 5:35 pm

Warner Bros. Confirms Joss Whedon-less Buffy Movie Because They’re Apparently Really Stupid (Update)

Last year, rumors began surfacing that Warner Bros. was planning on rebooting Buffy the Vampire Slayer with a new movie without the participation of the character’s creator Joss Whedon. The idea seemed so stupid that no one would possibly do it and, after, a few quiet months, that seemed to be the case. Today, however, they confirmed that this unholy abomination was actually happening. Lets all spend a few paragraphs thinking about the many reasons why this is the dumbest decision ever.

First, lets start with the press release announcing the new film:

“Atlas Entertainment announced today it is rebooting the beloved franchise, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, with Warner Bros. Pictures. Atlas’ Charles Roven and Steve Alexander will produce the feature film alongside Doug Davison and Roy Lee of Vertigo Entertainment (The Ring, How to Train Your Dragon, The Departed). Whit Anderson is writing the script.

Warner Bros. Pictures optioned the rights from creators Fran and Kaz Kuzui, and from Sandollar Productions (Sandy Gallin and Dolly Parton), for Atlas and Vertigo to produce. Buffy the Vampire Slayer first appeared as a film in 1992, subsequently becoming a cult hit and spawning the wildly popular television series starring Sarah Michelle Gellar and David Boreanaz, among many others.

‘Whit approached us with an exciting idea about how to update Buffy,’ said Roven. ‘There is an active fan base eagerly awaiting this character’s return to the big screen. We’re thrilled to team up with Doug and Roy on a re-imagining of Buffy and the world she inhabits. Details of the film are being kept under wraps, but I can say while this is not your high school Buffy, she’ll be just as witty, tough, and sexy as we all remember her to be.’

Whit Anderson is represented by CAA, Wirehouse Entertainment and Julian Zajfen at Ziffren, Brittenham, Branca, Fischer, Gilbert-Lurie & Stifflemen.”

Ooh, boy!

Update: Joss Whedon himself has responded to the Buffy reboot in a statement to E! News: (h/t io9)

This is a sad, sad reflection on our times, when people must feed off the carcasses of beloved stories from their youths-just because they can’t think of an original idea of their own, like I did with my Avengers idea that I made up myself.

Obviously I have strong, mixed emotions about something like this. My first reaction upon hearing who was writing it was, “Whit Stillman AND Wes Anderson? This is gonna be the most sardonically adorable movie EVER.” Apparently I was misinformed. Then I thought, “I’ll make a mint! This is worth more than all my Toy Story residuals combined!” Apparently I am seldom informed of anything. And possibly a little slow. But seriously, are vampires even popular any more?

I always hoped that Buffy would live on even after my death. But, you know, AFTER. I don’t love the idea of my creation in other hands, but I’m also well aware that many more hands than mine went into making that show what it was. And there is no legal grounds for doing anything other than sighing audibly. I can’t wish people who are passionate about my little myth ill. I can, however, take this time to announce that I’m making a Batman movie. Because there’s a franchise that truly needs updating. So look for The Dark Knight Rises Way Earlier Than That Other One And Also More Cheaply And In Toronto, rebooting into a theater near you.

Alright, to look into why Warner should pull the plug right now, I’m not going to look at this as a fan of the series. I’ll let the thousands of other die hards continue to do that all over the Internet. I’m going to look at this as just a rational person who knows that movie studios don’t want to lose money. Which they will. And here’s why:

Fans of the series won’t go see it:

Does Buffy have an “active fan base?” Absolutely. They’re entirely right about that. In fact, Buffy has one of the most devoted groups of fans a television series ever had. However, the vast majority of them aren’t going to see this movie and there are a number of very obvious reasons why.

First off, the new movie won’t be anything like the series. I’m not just saying that. It legally can’t be. Due to the original 1992 movie, Warner was able to get the film rights to the character of Buffy Summers, woman who slays vampires. However, 20th Century Fox has the rights to everything that happened in the television universe. This means no Angel. No Willow. No Xander. No Giles. Literally, everything that happened on that show during the time when it was actually popular is off limits.

Secondly, the original series is still ongoing. I’ve heard a lot of people compare this to the upcoming Spiderman reboot. This really doesn’t follow. Whedon and his writers are still keeping these characters alive via comics and novels. This would only be similar if the new Spiderman movie had to compete with Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire continuing that storyline at the same exact time! And even then it wouldn’t be the same. Spiderman fans are used to seeing new iterations of the web-slinger. There have been different writers, artists, cartoons, theme park rides, and everything for decades and decades. Buffy fans only have one Buffy. Sure, there was the movie before it, but I would guess that 90% of the fans who have seen it, only saw it after they loved the show and, when they did, they considered it little more than a curio they didn’t like.

Thirdly, Buffy fans aren’t just devoted to Buffy. They’re devoted to Joss Whedon. Like a lot. Like more than any other TV creator. And the show is so intrinsically connected to him that anything without his name is going to instantly feel false to these people. And these are the people that the new movie’s producers are counting on!

Most importantly though, even if the fans of the TV series did go see this movie (and paid to see it!), there aren’t enough of them. Does Warner Bros. not remember that the original “hit” series kind of got crappy ratings? It really only lived as long as it did because the networks it was on (The WB and UPN) felt the need to have at least one show that got good reviews. Yeah, 7th Heaven didn’t really bring in that many critics’ awards.

Non-fans of the series won’t go see it:

Here’s a question; why did the original, critically beloved series get mediocre ratings? Hmmm. Maybe it’s because not that many people give a crap about darkly comedic stories starring blonde vampire slayers that make it a point of subverting genre conventions while working as a deep and poignant metaphor. I know it’s hard for people who read a website called Geekosystem to believe, but this is a character that is custom designed for a niche audience. The original movie (which was made for a minuscule budget that you better believe would barely make up for the reboot’s marketing costs) only found a tiny audience. The TV series only found a tiny audience. We’ve already proven that the vast majority of people don’t want to see this story. So why do these producers think the new movie will suddenly catch on?

Oh, right. Twilight.

The thing is, Buffy is not Twilight. Buffy will never be Twilight. Twilight was a phenomenon that caught a perfect storm with Harry Potter fans looking for the next big YA craze, a dearth in the selection of female-based entertainment, and the beginning of the now five-year-old vampire craze. This reboot will be a vaguely familiar name that will leave all the people who didn’t watch the series weary that they’ve missed something. And we’ve already figured out what’s going to happen with the people who did watch the series. And, besides, the first novel in the Twilight series has sold 17 million copies. The highest rated season of BtVS had 5.3 million viewers. See the difference here?

Look, I love Buffy. In fact, I think the premise is so fun and ripe that this movie very well could be good. But, that doesn’t mean it’s going to be successful. It’s not. So, Warner Bros., I implore you, instead of insulting a bunch of fans and losing a ton of money on this sure-to-be bomb, just end this now and we’ll all pretend it didn’t happen. Buffy fans can do that. Hell, they already did it with the original movie.

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  • Mertseger

    “Buffy fans only have one Buffy. Sure, there was the TV show before it, but I would guess that 90% of the fans who have seen it, only saw it after they loved the show and…”

    I think you meant: “Sure, there was the movie before it…”

  • Jon Bershad

    Yep. I only did that to demonstrate the lack of attention to important details that I expect in this movie.

    Seriously. It was a test. I swear.

  • CYates

    Good article!

    Though I must admit I *would* watch the film, simply because the TV series seemed to tire a lot after season 3/4 anyway. They should’ve ended it much sooner than they did while it was still in it’s prime.

    I think of all reboots, this one is probably needed the most =P

  • kylemac

    Wow, whiner much? Seriously, what is this fascination with Whedon that most geeks seem to have? I loved the Buffy series but whining about how other people are using your idea when you sold the rights is a bit gauche. There are gives and takes in the industry. He took the opportunity to get his idea made into a television show, and part of that was giving up his sole ownership rights to the character. Complaining about that….I’ve often been a fan of the work but not the man, and this just cements that. It is as though he knows he has his fanbase and he feels that gives him the green light to be a prick.

    Whedon wrote an Avengers story? Now, would this be with previously designed characters? Talk about feeding off carcasses. What a hypocrite.

  • Whodat

    @kylemac, do you not understand irony when you read it? Joss was speaking tongue-in-cheek…

  • Exquisitelydonebyraychel

    To the two speaking about Joss and Buffy like it is stupid, and pretending the movie will just rake in tons of cash…read above article instead of scanning it and writing your pre-motivated dribble. Joss is godly to those of us, who watch the rare t.v. series with any kind of depth. And any Buffy movie without Joss will drop bottom bomb lameness.

    @kylemac…Why are you even in here writing? Writing something so pointless is not going to make you sound correct or intelligent or informed. You sound whiny that we won’t buy tickets to a stupid movie.

  • Guillermo

    When Joss whedon left as primary writer during the series run I could notice his absence in the story telling. He had a style that’s hard…impossible to match. If Whedon’s not attached then it wont be Buffy it will be Buffyesque, at best. No Angel? No Willow? No Xander or Giles?? No way!

  • J.M.

    I think it’s a mistake… buffy movie only with joss and sarah on board.
    I think you’re wrong too, buffy wasn’t so “unpopular” like you say… Buffy is just the second best show in the top 50 best tv shows ever, how can you say that? all the critics love and have respect for the series and you said the higher rating was 5.3 million in on season and you’re right, but buffy had one problem with the audience, and that was because the difference of ratings for episode, there was some episodes with really higher ratings, above 8 million, and there were others only in 3 million, and usually that was happening in episodes of the same season… Buffy was great the way she was… they can do so much in one movie, they can bring faith or something with the others caracters and not a new buffy totally unknown and without her friends like we know them, that’s sad and unrealistic! =/

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PAPILDYQCA63UZRGIK46PETLQQ FirstImpressioner

    The idea of doing a Buffy without Joss doesn’t seem that strange, only a little. Vampires are popular right now, and there’s money to be made. It just seems too EARLY to do a new movie about Buffy, and WAY too early to do a reboot.

    Funny thing is, although it doesn’t bother me about a Joss-less Buffy, there’s something about not having Sarah involved, that seems out of place. But that’s just a first impression.

    If it really does come out next year, they might be able to cameo in Depp’s Barnabas Collins.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Y5NM7TGRBUX6A2OLDIRTS7DJ6I Brian White

    “Sure, there was the movie before it, but I would guess that 90% of the
    fans who have seen it, only saw it
    after
    they loved the show
    and, when they did, they considered it little more than a curio they
    didn’t like.”

    I actually saw the movie in the theater. I didn’t even catch the show until it was off the air. I fell in love with the show, but I only started watching it because of Firefly.

  • Mombunny

    I would be one of the first to watch the movie.  I wasn’t the biggest fan of the first movie but loved the TV series so much I have watched every episode, more than once.  My best friend even has the entire series on dvd and I have even borrowed that and watched it the whole way through.    I love the story and the characters.  I even named my first born son after one of the characters.  Zander, I know that in the series his real name is Alexander and they call him “Xander” but that is where I got the name anyway.   Wow, long post and I could go on about this but will stop now.    Love it and will watch it when it comes out.

  • Loves Bitch

    On this subject I agree with what I was reading up there, but a new question raised is why wont anyone let Joss in on it? I mean the idea is good but with this problem it’s like trying to have Tom and Jerry spit and make a movie of it, there is no point as to who owns what rights that Joss couldn’t help, aye?

    And as far as ratings the show was a leap for it’s time, I mean I just watched show after show and new Marvel and DC comic movie remakes and people love them and go one asking for “whats next?”  The BTVS & Angel shows laid grown work now build something for us to enjoy from that! I mean I heard “Two & A Half Men” was making a return after all that happened, why can’t both new and old creators, actors & actresses work together like that and bring back an awesome movie putting a little less of a cliff hanger that was on both BTVS & Angel shows???

    I’m just a everyday guy looking through the eyes of a child here so if there are “Good” reasons this can’t happen please tell me?

  • CassandraT

    Seriously? It’s not just about Joss Whedon. Without any of the other characters from the tv show then it’s not Buffy.

  • Jenmac2250

    Did they even offer the roles to the original cast?  Joss, issues aside, would you like to work on the project? Then do it. Everyone would love to see you reunited with the original cast and the fans would stand behind you. “Where do we go from here,” that is up to you. Man up and take the project back.

  • Eve Eriksson

    you’re comment makes it obvious you’re not familiar with Whedon – he is a genius writer with a very particular voice.  That’s why we love him so.

  • Hello

    Actually, this article is the least whiny thing I have seen written by a Buffy fan regarding the reboot.  Joss does own the rights to everything Buffy except the original movie: in other words, he owns every bit that is successful.  Fact is that they tried to use Whedon’s idea without including him, and they failed miserably.  When he was the man in charge of the project, witness success.  Those odds speak for themselves.

    My main concern with your comment is the obvious lack of ability to understand concepts such as sarcasm and tongue-in-cheek humor.  You may very well be the only person alive who didn’t get the joke.