Michigan Police May Be Using Cellphone Hacking Device During Routine Traffic Stops

wow.That article sure goes a long way into explaining why MI has so many separatists,militia,constitutionalists and other “paranoid” people who think their government is pissing all over the bill of rights.

wow.That article sure goes a long way into explaining why MI has so many separatists,militia,constitutionalists and other “paranoid” people who think their government is pissing all over the bill of rights.

If officers are pulling you over for traffic violation they have no rights to view your cellphone – it’s call Illegal Search and Seizure. You have every right to decline his request.

If officers are pulling you over for traffic violation they have no rights to view your cellphone – it’s call Illegal Search and Seizure. You have every right to decline his request.

Regardless of where you stand you’d have to be blind to not see that our civil liberties have slowly been eroding since 9/11 and they we’re slowly descending into a police state. So am I a separatist, militia, a constitutionalist, paranoid, crazy? Nope none of the above but I’m not blind either – no matter how the left, right, center, media, or whatever spin it – the government IS pissing all over the bill of rights.

So “Free” information is actually $544,680? Why does this thing even exist? What evil mastermind would invent it? I can understand the police wanting to check your text and call history to see if you were doing either moments before they pulled you over, but if they’re going to show such blatant disregard for privacy with this thing, they might as well just grab the phone out of your car and check last calls themselves and leave all your other shit alone.

So “Free” information is actually $544,680? Why does this thing even exist? What evil mastermind would invent it? I can understand the police wanting to check your text and call history to see if you were doing either moments before they pulled you over, but if they’re going to show such blatant disregard for privacy with this thing, they might as well just grab the phone out of your car and check last calls themselves and leave all your other shit alone.

Where did they buy the software? It’s criminal software that’s been repurposed. Or military software which has been repurposed to police and criminal use.
Which gives me pause about the safety of my cell phone information anywhere.
The cops shouldn’t have it but I can’t see what good it would do them. But what crooks could do with it!

Not really. At least not more than they have in history (See McCarthyism). I mean, we even still grant the terrorists a right to a fair trial with the ability to have a lawyer. And you have the ability to say what you just said, meaning freedom of speech is intact. As far as I know, the government isn’t stopping you for being Muslim. You can still own a gun. I haven’t housed any troops lately. 4th amendment is slightly pushed out of the way, but 5th is still fine. And the states still govern a large amount of our lives. Hmm… Doesn’t sound like “pissing all over the bill of rights” to me

Gee, that… and coupled with the iPhone’s tracking of where you’ve been. I feel really, really secure now! /sarchasm

With this technology, it is obvious that the closed source program that holds the iPhone/Pad/Pod/Puke is open to certain groups or individuals who have way too much time on our hands. There is no real protection against these devices software wise. There is only protection in hardware, get a metallic case that will protect people reading the magnetic strip on your credit card or driver’s license. I have seen them do a readout in demonstrations, looks nothing more than a doorway, and everything in your wallet is read. What your bank number is, your address, name, info at the bank. Cool huh? Well, I guess were going to have to go back to metal cases with electric tape on the inside to hide these phones. Sad, you just wanted a phone that made you a sheeple, now your wondering why the device you paid so much for is going to be your worst enemy. Heh, won’t be long before you can’t buy shit (home, vehicle, food…) without a damn chip in your hand, or neck, or wherever :cough: forhead :cough: . I think I read something about that somewhere in this old old old book I had. Must be my imagination. Oh well. Long live iTechnology, the slavery you pay for.

Could you really? He could just be searching the area around your vehicle. That is not illegal. Look at our constitution, there is nothing about protection of privacy. It is not a right, it is a privilege. “Daddy” gave you that “right” and can take it away if he wants to.

Fore doth thee iPhone hath said…. “Never again will you be capable of ordinary human feeling. Everything will be dead inside you. Never again will you be capable of love, or friendship, or joy of living, or laughter, or curiosity, or courage, or integrity. You will be hollow. We shall squeeze you empty and then we shall fill you with ourselves.”

Wait, does this device work wirelessly/surreptitiously or does the cop need to physically plug your phone in?

Because if they can do it just by being in the general area of your phone without you knowing, it’s a really big deal. If they need to ask you for your phone to plug in, however, that request can and should be met with a polite ‘no’.

The fact that they’re even asking during routine traffic stops is a major problem nonetheless, but at least you have the opportunity to stand your ground and decline.

I use pieces of aluminum foil on the sides of my wallet. I think it works but not having a machine to try it out.
I could use a grounding envelope for the phone, the kind that computer pieces come in.
But I never get stopped while driving (knock on wood).

If I put a password on my phone I have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the information contained therein. As such, a warrant is required under the 4th amendment (unless there are exigent circumstances).

This is my question too. I have not been able to find out if they can do it wirelessly or if they have to plug the phone in. The photos that Cellebrite puts out all show a phone plugged in but since they made this software in the first place their photos do not reassure me!

I had to check the date to make sure it’s not April Fool’s Day…

This is awful, but the easy option is not to have the bloody thing switched on when you’re in transit =P

Sooo, when someone comes up with an entirely NEW device to hack POLICE info, THEN this would be illegal, why?? LOL! -If they have nothing illegal to hide, it should be fine-. Their logic is incorrect. How can they, as police and supposed, UPSTANDING AMERICANS, feel they are not breaking an Amendment. No one is above the law.

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It’s called a warrentless search, and it’s illegal. YOU go read the law. Anything in plain signt is fair game, yes. But the data in a phone is not.

Well, I recently had 3 cops outright lie about a minor traffic stop and I ended up going to jail.

I’ve experienced it. Don’t tell me it’s nothing to worry about.

The specs on the scanner mention IR and Bluetooth data-linking. But that might not work in all cases, so the scanner comes with a bag of cables to ensure compatibility with over 2,500 phone models. I remember seeing a modded cell phone on e-bay that could grab all this data just by calling the targets number. So that’s another possible method this could be using. I think there could be a market for a cell-wiping app that can be triggered from a key fob.

Of course! If the police have nothing to hide, then there should be no problem with a group of common citizens requesting info on their toy, right? But they’re probably worried that the general hacking community will start to reverse engineer the device, and then release wild code to block it. Or attack it!

It is bluetooth capable, so usb is not required.