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Uncategorized Monday, October 17th 2011 at 1:40 pm

Man Sent To Jail For Abusive, Offensive Facebook Posts

Stephen Birrell, a 28-year-old from Glasgow, is being jailed for 8 months largely as a result of some offensive Facebook comments. Now, Birrell was not an otherwise upstanding citizen. When he posted the abusive comments, he’d just been released from a completely separate 12-month sentence. In addition, he’s been banned from attending any regulation soccer matches for 5 years. Dude probably has some issues with keeping his mouth shut.

The postings in question directed hate at fans of the Celtic Football Club as well as Catholics but, surprisingly enough, most of the postings contained neither profanity nor threats of violence. In fact, we can post several of them here.

A few of the comments, courtesy of BBC News:

“Hope they [Celtic fans] all die. Simple. Catholic scumbags ha ha.”

“Proud to hate Fenian tattie farmers. Simple ha ha.”

“They’re all ploughing the fields the dirty scumbags.”

According to the BBC, he also made some off-color comments about the Pope. Those weren’t repeated.

According to statements from the law enforcement involved, it seems as though Birrell is intended to be an example for other would-be loud mouths who like to talk about how much they hate other groups of people. Upon the delivery of the sentence, Sheriff Bill Totten said “I do want to make clear today that in selecting a prison sentence I also have in mind that the court should be sending out a clear message to deter others who might be tempted to behave in this way,” and made clear that, in his mind, Birrell’s statements were hate crimes.

The Solicitor General (Attorney General) Lesley Thomson had the following to say:

The Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service is absolutely determined to play its part in confronting the problems of sectarianism, religious offences and related disorder and violence.

Whether the offences are at the football match itself, travelling to or from it, or as in this case online threatening communications, we will do all in our power to bring those who perpetrate such crimes to justice.

Prosecutors will continue to prosecute anyone indulging in such behaviour which is completely unacceptable in modern Scotland.”

While this is a respectable attempt to cut down on offensive, hate-filled language in a public forum, I can’t help but think “Well, it’s the Internet. This is a thing that happens there.” Of course, maybe that’s not how it has to be. Still, Birrell’s comments were notably devoid of any sort of threats, despite their vitriol. Then again, in context of his previous record, the threats very well may have been clearly implied.

(via BBC News)

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  • Ggow

    I’m from Glasgow, our government (the Scottish one, not the UK one) has enacted laws to combat sectarianism and religious and racist vitriol.  This city has a long and extremely violent history between Celtic Football Club (which has Irish and Catholic roots) and Rangers Football Club (which has Scottish and Protestant roots).  Things like “Fenian” and “tattie (Scots for potato) farmers” are specific pejorative hate-speech against Irish.

    Personally anybody expressing any such sectarian vitriol in any forum should be punished, it’s a cancer on our city and culture.  We have laws against cyberbullying, why not hatespeech?

  • Scot down South

    Yep, Glasgow has some real dross to deal with. Still a dangerous precedent, though. This is fine only until somebody takes offense at something you say or do and persuades the powers that be to make that criminal too. Think Andy Murray and ABE. The polis were sniffing round the Aberdonians who were selling ABE T-shirts, if I remember rightly. Want to go to jail for saying that the English are … whatever it is we might not now be allowed to say? And where do you stop?

  • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

    Glasgow = Belfast-Lite
    Comments like that are like… water off a ducks back… in Belfast.

    And this is a shocking knee-jerk reaction to speech.
    So he doesn’t like the other side…. WOW… how offensive.
    And he talked openly about it… shocking

    Calling the Conservative party and the UK prime minister ” a bunch of toffs “..
    Is that now also an offense ?

    Ban him from games….no problem. ( if thats what the PRIVATELY owned league want )
    But throw him in jail ? wtf. 

    Scottish government on a power trip to control peoples OPINIONS.

  • Enthusiast

    Since when is Fenian hate speech?  

    “Oh, had they died by Pearse’s side or fought with Cathal BrughaTheir graves we’d keep where the Fenians sleep, ‘neath the shroud of the foggy dew.”

  • Anonymous

    That’s the difference between having a constitution that allows free speech and one that doesn’t. In the U.S. we don’t need to be protected from Blowhards. Once you let your government tell you what you can and cannot say, be sure that pretty soon you can’t hurt that government official’s feelings, or that poor little banker either. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4PJA2F7TQFXMAOCL3QZ5I22F7U Adam

    “We have laws against cyberbullying, why not hatespeech?”

     Read 1984 by George Orwell to find your answer. Glasgow is prosecuting “thoughtcrime”. You are at the very peak of Fascism.

  • Troyldailey

    Look dude, I’m of Scotch-Irish descent….so this kind of thing does matter to me, but…if you go around arresting people for the stupid shit they say we may as well ditch the very concepts of “republic” and “democracy” and just go back to pre- Magna Carta despotism…or embrace fascism, soviet communism, or some other “ism.”  We are supposed to be in free-societies…you have to take some bad with the good.  That doesn’t mean that if I was in the UK that I wouldn’t be tempted to look him up and thump him…but it’s his freedom to spew bullshit and mine to dot his eyes (and cross his “t’s”?)