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Uncategorized Tuesday, January 18th 2011 at 4:47 pm

An Open Letter to Square Enix Regarding Final Fantasy XIII-2: This is Why You Aren’t Relevant Anymore

I’ve written one of these open letters before, and only do so when I feel the world is in peril. What greater peril than a direct sequel to the disastrous Final Fantasy XIII?

Dear Square Enix,

Once upon a time, you mattered. Remember those days? When you literally ended a world halfway through a game then gave the player control over what was essentially the fourth or fifth main character and it was one of the most awesome things that happened in gaming up until that point? How about that time you made a certain game that almost got banned due to its religious content, and the majority of the second disc was reading instead of gameplay, but it was still heralded as one of the best video game stories ever told? Do you remember when games produced by other developers were just things gamers played while waiting for your next title? Remember the stranglehold your main franchise had on the market, but you were so good at making games that your best title didn’t even have the words “final” or “fantasy” anywhere near their italics?

Those were good times for both of us, right? Didn’t we have a good relationship? We preordered all your games and even arrived early at midnight releases just to stand around with other fans and chat about your previous titles, only to return home with the exorbitantly expensive collector’s edition of your new game and forget that sleep is healthy practice. We gave you our money and praise and you gave us games we still talk about over a decade later. If I may ask you, Square Enix, what didn’t you like about this arrangement? With the official confirmation of Final Fantasy XIII-2, the direct sequel to your most disappointing game to date, you are now showcasing near-legendary levels of stubbornness, as well as following an odd trend.

After Final Fantasy XII seemed to breathe life back into your most beloved franchise, you turned right around and basically harassed your loyal fans with Final Fantasy XIII. According to a comprehensive Metacritic comparison of every main (read: numbered and direct sequel; not a port, re-release or remake) Final Fantasy, FFXIII was literally the worst-received installment, trailing even the excruciating Final Fantasy X-2, the game that was a direct sequel featuring the character that (at the time) held the privilege of being the Worst Final Fantasy Character, and also dedicated an entire chapter (one-fifth of the story!) to watching CommSpheres from a menu, which are basically boring webcam feeds of everything happening in the boring world.

There are three things we notice here, Square, and you aren’t fooling any of us.

  1. A disturbing trend that dictates only your worst games or characters get direct sequels. The worst main character (at the time) throughout the entire Final Fantasy series got her own direct sequel in Final Fantasy X-2. She was intolerable, so clearly, appropriate logic suggests a good move would be to release an entire other game featuring her. Final Fantasy XIII is the worst-received main game in the franchise, so obviously, appropriate logic suggests the good move here is to subject everyone to it again.
  2. You are stubborn, which seems to be a trend among Japanese game development powerhouses. Your fans have been begging you for either a remake or a direct playable sequel to Final Fantasy VII, the installment that many consider to be your most shining accomplishment, and instead you give everyone a weird action side-sequel, a subpar direct sequel movie, and a surprisingly good portable prequel. On top of that, you give everyone a direct sequel starring the Worst Final Fantasy Character, multiple ports and remakes (instead of the instant moneymaker FFVII remake) of older titles to portable systems, and now you announce a direct sequel to what is literally the worst main Final FantasyXIII–a game which took the prestigious award of Worst Final Fantasy Character from X and X-2 and passed it on to most of its characters. You are acting no different than an Internet troll, Square, except you expend years of time, work and a humongous budget to do it.
  3. You are out of ideas. Over the years, Final Fantasy has turned into a parody of itself, so much so that the plot and characters of XIII felt like someone wrote some complex code, entered a handful of oft-repeated Final Fantasy keywords, “fate, Bahamut, fate, destiny, hope, dumb hair, fate, big weapons, chocobo, fate” and allowed some sophisticated software to write the story and characters instead of humans. Every story is rehashed and every character has a direct equivalent in other installments. So, Square, you see why I’m not too thrilled when the question you want us to be asking about XIII-2 is “Why does mankind defy its fate?”

There’s a theory, of course: The worst Final Fantasy games are the only ones to get direct playable sequels because you are trying to salvage the games’ universes. Seeing as how X-2 was released before XII, and X-2 was your second worst-received main game while XII was your second best-received main game, wouldn’t common sense dictate that the formula to follow is to flee the sinking ship rather than spend another handful of years and a huge budget attempting to bail out an amount of flowing water much larger than your buckets can fit? Or, I guess, you can slap a single wing-like item onto your main character,

because it’ll trick us into thinking it’s just as awesome as it was the first time around in the Final Fantasy VII universe?

All of the above signifies why you are bordering on irrelevance, Square. Sure, you can still make money based on brand recognition. Maybe you’re simply content that your other half, Enix, the developers of the Dragon Quest franchise–Final Fantasy’s direct competition over the years–can still rake in the cash. You can still trick us doe-eyed fans of old into thinking “Maybe this time around it’ll be like it used to be!” But now, for some of us, your games have become things we buy with disposable income, rather than something for which we save. We no longer attend your midnight releases or pay extra for collector’s editions instead of groceries. Your games are becoming the games we play while we wait for other ones.

I wish you cared.

Having realized long ago that dumb hair, big swords and fate just aren’t enough anymore,

James.

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  • Blendo75

    FFXIII is getting a sequel because it sold over 6 million copies. Also, despite what the haters would have you believe the game was very well reviewed. The only bad thing about this game is the incredible amount of bullshit spewed by it’s detractors.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=648130286 Devon Lasher

    +1 mate.

  • Raider87

    Square enix You are lossing time doing this(FFXIII-2), do a Remake of FFVII and stop doing this sh**, FFXIII and FFXIV Is a lost case… It Is a garbage… You, Square enix dont care about youre fans….

  • http://www.facebook.com/amedeus8 Nick Gotshall

    Hear hear! And also, Square, if you could please releasing MMOs as main numbered games, that would be swell. I stopped caring about playing all the main games in the series the day that doing so meant I’d have to play those, too. I haven’t played anything since X.

  • Ikkle_zasha

    I did hear that Square would only do a remake if the original FF7 team were available. This was a constant problem due to the different projects and time schedules each original project member was working on.

    I hate to say, but if you bought these games and played them then they win, even if they do suck, they got your money =/

  • AllAnonymous44

    So those Metacritic numbers are false? It’s kinda cut-and-dry. Sure, the game received its share of positive reviews, but clearly the overall opinion didn’t match the critical acclaim of previous titles…

  • The never ending Final Fantasy

    Square isn’t entitled to make us games. Yeah we can all sit around and blog about what they are or are not doing for the fans but if they stopped making games that were beautiful and displayed a fantasy never before seen outside of dreams then that is one more thing I don’t have to look forward to. I enjoyed 13, I enjoyed 12, and 10 and everything else dating back to the begining. Sure 10-2 was a bust. But you know what? The chance to make Tidus live again was worth the crappy plot. So whine and complain but while we bad mouth a company good enough to write a story about practically they are still the ones at the top bringing entire worlds that never existed into our lives for our enjoyment. Final Fantasy isn’t about making the old games better, it’s about making a new world with a new way to interact with it. I for one have been and will remain a loyal fan. When 13-2 comes out, I’ll own it. And I’ll play it on a limited edition versus 13 console that I will shell out much too much money for a console I already own.

  • The never ending Final Fantasy

    And yeah there were some run-on sentences in there. Sue me.

  • The never ending Final Fantasy

    And yeah there were some run-on sentences in there. Sue me.

  • Anonymous

    I stopped reading when you called Yuna the worst FF character.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jonbash Jon Bash

    HA. Yuna worst character? Not Cait Sith, or Zell, or Yuffie, or Quina, or Rikku, or VAAN?!? And Final Fantasy XII was a good game?!?!? Uhhhh… were we playing the same game? It was HORRENDOUSLY BORING.

    Okay, so you didn’t like FFXIII because… oh, wait for it… it was LINEAR *regurgitate critic buzz-word*. Yes, okay, FFXIII could have been worlds better. But it had such potential, and although the trailer makes this sequel look like it has the potential to be a horrendous pile of crap… who knows at this point. It could end up being the Dark Knight to FFXIII’s Batman Begins.

  • Blendo75

    Uhhh.. according to Metacritic the PS3 version got exactly 1 bad review and has an 83/100 with an 8.4 user score.. Am I missing something?

    http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/final-fantasy-xiii

  • Hate, Y U No Love?

    Awww… lookit the last remaining Japanes RPG gamers who got butt-hurt over an opinion.

    Nevermind FF… the whole Japanese industry save for Nintendo and Sony is on a downward decline because their whole industry in general is stubborn.

    Fighting games are so boring and abysmal, they’ve resorted to going ‘retro’ and doing 2-D fighting games w/ 3D graphics… because they can’t think of anything better (and Mortal Kombat isn’t much better, so I am being fair).

    Their RPGs hardly are ever blockbusters anymore… if it wasn’t for Playstation and Otakus, FF would be dead. FF finally came to Xbox and the # of xbox players that really cared…? The next Call of Duty will sell millions too even if it totally sucks… thats the same effect FF has at this point.

    Action games have sucked too… 3D Castlevania, Bionic Commando, Lost Planet, Bayonetta… sometimes fun but derivative/repetitive games, but not sales-crushing mega-hits like CoD, Halo, Gears Of War, God of War, Fallout, or Mass Effect. Japanese action games are so boring, Capcom took Devil May Cry and has a European developer doing a remake.

    Japan used to innovate… now they are old hat.

  • Trisenator

    How about we stop pointlessly arguing over who’s right and wrong, who’s opinion matters and who’s doesn’t. Learn that Square Enix and the likes rarely listen to what the people want, and there’s a very good reason, just look at the divide in these comments alone. They can’t tailor games to suit everyone, it’s impossible. There will be linear games, there will be open world games that feel like the old style. There’ll be sidegames, prequels and perhaps sequels. For every Final Fantasy there are lovers and haters, this much is abundantly clear. People will enjoy 13-2, others will not. People will always cry out for something else vii related, others will not. Square is a big enough company, they know what they’re doing otherwise they wouldn’t have made so many already. Accept that no matter how many people you get behind you to demand what you want from them, there will still be people that don’t want it. They’re following a route that they know how to tread. if xiii-2 isn’t what you want, wait for the next one. If that one isn’t what you want, then maybe it’s time to realize that quite possibly the modern age of RPG’s isn’t for you, everything changes.

  • Sage

    sage

  • Anonymous

    Alright. Now stop crying, FFVII fanboy – FFVI kicks your ass in every aspect.

  • Sjdif_29

    You’re retarded

  • M’Kay

    The problem with you fanboys and girls is that you become so rigid in what you find entertaining. If Enix takes a different route and it doesn’t completely “wow” you, it becomes the greatest atrocity in gaming.

    Folks really need to get over the fact that 13 was an linear RPG. On its own merits, and not having to stand up to the mighty VII, it was a great RPG. Sure, it fumbled in some place, but at least I’m willing to give Square Enix some credit for not just simply giving into fanboy pressure and just making a remake of VII.

    I’m actually looking forward to XIII.2, to see if the company takes a different approach to the gameplay, while keeping the elements that worked well. The trailer seems to suggest that they are taking a very different approach, at least ascetically to the futuristic Cocoon, and go for the more typical fantasy environment.

  • http://www.facebook.com/annepackrat Anne Packrat Mathews

    FFXIII was a huge disappointment for me. I bought a PS3 to essentially play this game, and I barely spent twenty hours on it (compared to the 100+ I spent on XII).

    Stuff like this is the reason I’m a diehard Dragon Quest / Warrior fangirl.

  • http://twitter.com/hey_daniel Daniel

    This just wreaks of desperate fan boy.

  • Mrloksalot

    That’s all well and good…but the game was still pretty bad.

  • Kipper

    I disagree with practically everything in that letter. I was never a big FF fan, not because I hated it or anything, I just never got around to playing them and I was a bit too young to enjoy the older games. So this is coming from someone who has no long-term nostalgia regarding the main series. I’ve been making an effort to play a bunch of them (mainly thanks to Dissidia). Basically, I’ve played the DS remakes of FF3 and FF4, FF6, FF7, FF10-2, FF12, and FF13. Not to mention all the FF spinoffs (the first Crystal Chronicles was a masterpiece IMO) and the brief stint I had with FF11.

    Here’s the thing. I liked all of them. I loved 10-2 (yeah you heard me), I would’ve continued 11 if it weren’t such a major timesink, and 12 is my favourite by far. I liked FF13 as well, and it had some flaws… but what game doesn’t? Sometimes I’m appalled at how close-minded people can be about this. Things like this letter really bother me because of that. Flaunt your statistics and review scores all you like, they’re still pretty good, meaning the game has its fans (like me).

    And what’s all this about Yuna and FF10 being the worst things ever? I haven’t played 10, but I’ve seen enough of it to know that it’s a solid game, and Yuna may be, I dunno, boring or something, but she’s hardly the worst. This is going to sound elitist, but I’m not the kind of person that looks for the worst, I just focus on, you know, the good things. And if articles and comments like these are any indication, I’m having more fun because of it.

    TL;DR: Have fun with your hatred and disappointment everyone, I’ll be too busy enjoying all the FF games to notice. :D

  • http://bluehighwind.blogspot.com/ BlueHighwind

    I’d say that Versus XIII and Agito XIII still have promise. Of course, one of those games will still never be released and the other just changed its name, but that’s unimportant. So its not fully irrelevant, but its almost there.

    And no matter how bad Final Fantasy got, I’d probably still pay attention for lulz.

  • bringbacksquaresoft

    I agree with this post completely. Squaresoft made great works of art that provided memorable experiences. Square Enix makes business sequels that make me feel like I’ve wasted a lot of time experiencing them. Where’s this generations Vagrant Story? Why, oh why, did Square ever decide to butcher the Final Fantasy series? FFXI should have been “Final Fantasy I – Online”, Final Fantasy XIII shouldn’t have been directed by that retard, FFXIV should have been “Final Fantasy II – Online”, there should never have been a FFX-2, and the mere idea of FFXIII-2 makes me feel ill considering there is a FF versus XIII which looks much more promising anyway.

    I, for one, hope they don’t remake FFVII – they’d just ruin it. Where can I find a good new RPG…….. one worth remembering? Answer: NOT Square Enix.

  • Autumnflame

    What’s funny about this rant is that I remember when FFXII came out and people were decrying it as “the worst Final Fantasy ever,” “totally boring,” “it’s not even a game any more, it literally plays itself,” “wtf girly teen boy” and on and on. Similar things with:

    XI (“WTF why is it online THIS ISN’T REAL FINAL FANTASY”)

    X-2 (“WTF why did they turn Yuna into a stupid pop idol” “WTF is this dress sphere crap” “they totally changed the game that we loved, why did they do that”)

    X (“WTF stupid designs” “tidus is the stupidest hero ever” “worst game ever”)

    IX (“wtf the bobble-headed style is stupid” “why the hell does Zidane have a monkey tail” “this is so retro I hate being pandered to, keep evolving and don’t go back to the past” “wtf is with Kuja stupid girly villain”)

    VIII (“Squall is so dumb, loser emo kid” “Rinoa is horrible weak damsel in distress” “WTF is with this junction crap,” “amnesiatic orphans, are you kidding me” “wtf summon sequences” “wtf this is Final FANTASY, why do they keep making modern-day games”).

    I wasn’t playing JRPGs before that, so don’t remember VII coming out. Wouldn’t be surprised if similar complaints aired, though.

    Face it, people hate on XIII because it’s the newest one. When something new comes out to focus their vitriol on, its status as “OMG the worst game ever!” will be forgotten. Individual results may vary, but the general gaming populace will forgive or forget its flaws.

  • Ultimaff

    Where the fuck is XIII Versus instead of this shit. I swear if theres a dressphere or anything of the kind i will shit in a box and send it to Squenix HQ

  • Thegodovan

    The reason there is so much hate for final fantasy 13 and 12 is because people just can’t accept change. When some new style of game play is handed to you, you tend to dislike it because it’s not “The original” style. Sure I agree that 13 had a linear progression style, but it also had plenty of ups. People need to become more accepting of things.

  • squarsoftwasking

    @Thegodovan

    It has nothing to do with an inability to accept change. On the contrary, change is EXACTLY what Final Fantasy needs. Every story is the same, all the characters are replications of each other with new skins. What made Final Fantasy good back during VI and VII was that those games provided a memorable adventure story. Now they are predictable and cliche. Vagrant Story is light years ahead of Final Fantasy XIII and that was PS1. Xenogears was light years ahead of FFXIII. Hell, I’d rather play Saga Frontier 2 than FFXIII.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jkgarrett17 Jeremiah K. Garrett

    I loved the game! Absolutely. I think the idea of a sequel is a good one gameplay-wise, but I don’t see how they can honestly add to the storyline that doesn’t contradict it. Still, I’ve already preordered it.

    Spoiler Alert for FFXIII if you haven’t got to chapter 11:

    What people need to realize is that the straight forward JRPG style of Cocoon was not a failure. It was an intentional artistic move to get the player trapped into the mindset of the characters. They were trapped inside their Focus and only had one route to take. Cocoon was a prison for human slaves to the Fal’Cie. They had nowhere to run, so neither did the player. By creating a world to explore with Pulse, that freed the player from the prison the characters were trapped in. It gave the player a relief that the characters had to feel when they arrived. The drastic change in gameplay was not a failure, it was a deliberate plot to entrap and then free the player. True, after chapter 11 there should have been 9 more chapters, not 2! But still, the game was great. I think an 84 is a very low score. Next to Star Ocean TLHI and Chrono Trigger, this is probably my favourite in the RPG series, although I do have very fond memories of some of the early Mana games.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jkgarrett17 Jeremiah K. Garrett

    As I said below the linear JRPG style was an intentional plot on the part of SE to get the player trapped in the mindset of the character. They had their Focus, a straight ticket to Hell. Cocoon was a prison for the L’Cie and the other humans enslaved by the Fal’Cie. Yes, they should have opened up more after chapter 11 and chapter 11 should have been the midpoint of the storyline, not the prequel to the climax. But still, it served its artistic purpose of enslaving the player to an unavoidable fate that was unchangable. Perhaps it wasn’t that great of a gameplay move, but as a means of immersing the player in the storyline, it was an excellent move that proves by the thousands of complaints that it did what it intended to do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jkgarrett17 Jeremiah K. Garrett

    VII wasn’t proclaimed as a failure by most people because it was the introduction to 3D gaming. It came out on the PS and was intended to be a new evolution of gaming, and as people expected that and it was advertised as that, they loved it. Between it and Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, it is and was heralded as one of the two best games of all time.

    Personally, I entirely disagree and the first copy I owned a smashed. However, I do love the game now that I am a bit older and more accustomed to the violence and language in the style of Barrett; but I do not herald it as the epic that everyone else does.

    The new games are being heralded as classic RPGs, but they are not. They are a new genre of games, and they are absolutely amazing. But they are not classic RPGs, and people don’t like this. If they want classic RPGs, they need to play Dragon Quest. It’s geared towards kids that want the classic RPG games. Final Fantasy is geared towards the evolution in gaming and always has been. For some reason, some people don’t like this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jkgarrett17 Jeremiah K. Garrett

    Hey! Guess what! If you don’t like the series, stop buying the games! If you want classic RPGs, play Dragon Quest. If you want the newest evolution in RPG gaming and the art of storytelling, play Final Fantasy. It has always been the newest evolution in gaming and always will be. It’s not classic, and it’s not meant to be and was never meant to be from when the original Final Fantasy was released. If you want a classic game, don’t play Final Fantasy, ’cause it ain’t meant to be a classic game!

    (However, I totally agree that Final Fantasy XI should have been Final Fantasy Online and Final Fantasy XIV should have been Final Fantasy Online II.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/jkgarrett17 Jeremiah K. Garrett

    Ah! Crystal Chronicles was Hell! If you want a classic Final Fantasy game, play Crystal Chronicles! It’s a JRPG geared towards kids if there ever was one, just like Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy II were.

    I played over 120 days (as in play time, not 6 months of paid membership) of FFXI and loved it. Eventually the drama got to me, and after having my third linkshell fall to pieces I just added some friends of FaceBook and cancelled my subscription to avoid ruining any more friendship. They whole gay guy pretending to be a girl and online dating another guy kinda…. well…. yeah…. But he was still my friend afterwards.

    10-2 was fun, but the story was very, very lame. 12 was my favourite next to Chrono Trigger. If you haven’t played it, you should. But it is not a JRPG, and getting every alternate ending can be very addictive. (The SNES is better than the PS version. Idk about the DS; but go for it!)

    I don’t know where XIII falls into the line. Probably right behind XII, maybe right in front of it. I’m for the evolution of gaming, and Final Fantasy XIII brings a new evolution of gameplay, a new evolution of graphics, and a great linear story in Cocoon that traps the player into the mindsets of the characters: no hope, no exploration, only have one thing to do, and that’s to survive to outlive their Focus. Get to Pulse and a new freedom opens up, giving the player the absolute elation that the characters felt.

    However, Star Ocean TLHI is my favourite game of all time at the moment! It definitely is not a classic JRPG! And I absolutely love it! (Now if I could just get my 120 hours of saved data back from the stupid tech support that erased my hard drive….)

  • http://www.facebook.com/jkgarrett17 Jeremiah K. Garrett

    Oh my! I just beat the main storyline and have 45% of the trophies and I’m 105 hours into the game! If you only spent 20 hours on it, that’s why you’re so disappointed. If you didn’t finish the storyline, realize that your entrapment on Cocoon is an artistic element meant to trap you into the mindset of the characters. Once you hit chapter 11, things change drastically. It’s still not the best game ever, but it is quite good and quite enjoyable.

    If you’re a diehard Dragon Quest/Warrior fangirl, then you may not like Final Fantasy XIII or many of the other post-VII Final Fantasy games. They weren’t meant to be classic RPGs like Dragon Quest/Warrior are. They were meant to be an evolution of the RPG genre into the latest modes of gaming, and that is what they are.

    I bought my PS3 in December, 2006 just for this game, and I’m quite glad I did, even though I didn’t start playing it until just this past month (Jan, 2011). 5 years was well worth the wait, especially since the PS3 is no longer backwards compatible.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jkgarrett17 Jeremiah K. Garrett

    Actually they do suit games to tailor to everyone. That’s why there are so many different series of games. For the classic RPG player, there’s Dragon Quest/Warrior. For the evolving RPG gamer, there’s Final Fantasy. There’s even many other FPS and 3PS and many other types of games out there that SE places so they do have something for everyone. Now with their partnership with Eidos, the only genre they are missing is sports.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jkgarrett17 Jeremiah K. Garrett

    Ummm… Cait Sith was freakin’ awesome! It was the best character ever in any game! (Please note the sarcasm…)

  • http://www.facebook.com/jkgarrett17 Jeremiah K. Garrett

    OK… What’s your lawyer’s address, and how much are you worth :)

  • Matthew

    I hate you FFVII and FFXII fans,FFXIII was an awesome game,okay,i know many people hated it because it ran from the usual FF style and because of the linearity in the game,now,people liked FFXII because you are free to do what you want,but unlike FFXIII,it had a poor story,almost as bad as X-2,and i agree FFVII was a good FF but most of you guys
    just like it because of Cloud,Sephiroth or Aerith.Even if Final Fantasy games only talk about destiny,future,chocobo or fate,they are pretty good on doing that,and always make us like it.And one thing more,i agree with what Jeremiah and Mkay said,want a old-style RPG?Play Dragon Quest and let SQ make more FF!You FFXII and FFVII fans suck!why do you guys want to play FFVII again?You have already played DoC,CC and have seen LO and even AC,FFVII does not have anything more to give to us,it ended.Oh and FFXII sucked,now this one was the worst FF

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=732807753 E.l. Greene

    How much free time do you have Jeremiah to constantly reply to everyone who has a conflicting opinion, most people would just ignore it, but I guess your generally not capable of it?

    I hated XIII and I’m almost at a platinum, in terms of it being a FF game it falls completely short on almost every aspect. Had it not been named FF, it probably would have been decent. Square’s best release last year was Nier, and they didn’t even make it, thank god.

    No Towns, No sidequests, No actual character development to speak of, Vayge story, attrocious voice acting, annoying characters, needless characters ( I stopped using Snow, Vanille and Hope right off the bat, but still maxed them out for the trophy, and Vanille to kill the two Ochu hunts ), Poor pacing, easy bosses, easy fights, endless slow grinding due to ratios being screwed up. If it wasn’t for just Chapter 11, the soundtrack and the visuals, the game would have been a complete failure. ( Btw, I’ve played the import and the domestic US release, and I’d take the JP version over the subtle changes they made to the US version which makes using ethersols so much more tedious )

    I also forgot to mention, the attrocious summon design, wow, Odin and Brynhilder were the nly two passable in any form, and Odin looked like he ripped off White Knight in every way ( Amazing game btw ) , just like 12 ( which I liked alot ) the summons were all but useless and really no one used them unless they were bored.

    I’m mad they absorbed Enix, and will eventually shit all over Star Ocean, a much better series in every possible way.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Blue-Demon/100001361367246 Blue Demon

    dude get over it…FFVII was the best yeah we all know that…pesonally i really liked FFXIII…ffvii is from the past so get the f*ck over it…really good things only come once in a while but still the whole final fantasy saga is the best thing there is

  • The never ending Final Fantasy

    Not literally,lol.

  • Leandro

    XII was great during the first 10-20 hours. The opening was fantastic and got me thinking the plot would be awesome..
    Then it was cool during the next 10 hours. But the plot was awful.
    Then it started to get boring during the next 10 hours. The plot was almost non-existent.
    For the next 20 hours I forced myself to play it hoping that something interesting would eventually happen, or I at least would finish the game and end my pain. But I was wrong.
    Then I realized that if I was going to play a game that looked like a MMORPG and keep doing endless boring hunting missions, then I should play a real MMORPG, where I at least could talk to friends while doing it.

    And I think you forgot that XII got the playable sequel Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings. So, according to your logic, XII is also one of the worst FF.

    I should have done like pal2002 and stopped reading when you said Yuna is the worst FF character…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000160710631 Chase Sowers

    For the record you’re entire letter is completely biased

  • schtoop

    Ugh… If all the SE haters got together to write a novel, it’d be titled:

    “I Like to Hear Myself Talk: A Portrait of an Ex-Square Fanboy”

    It’s ridiculous how many people just love to jump on the hate bandwagon for XIII with statements of how “they just don’t make ‘em like they used to.” How many of you have REALLY been fans of the series since the beginning? No, the beginning didn’t start with emo Cloud’s adventures through Midgar, I mean the REAL beginning. Probably not most of you, since you’re mostly the same people who are just begging for an HD remake of VII, and who would probably bitch to no end the moment you got it, just to have something to bitch about.

    The series has morphed and adapted so much that the list of differences from title to title are astounding. And usually, it’s the fans that are demanding this. That’s the reason why Square got to the height of its popularity the way it did: because it took what you expected in a game, changed it, and succeeded with flying colors. Take a game series where nothing changes except minor tweaks here and there, and the end result is analogous to an oversaturated FPS market or a dead music rhythm games market. In the end, they brought the change because you, as a gamer, inherently demand it. You made your bed, so shut up and sleep in it already.

    6 million copies sold is not a failure. 82/83 on metacritic is not a failure. If you want to see failure, look to the future at your career as a journalist, if you can see through all the yellow…

  • Yourface

    FFXII had far more in common with vagrant story then it did with the final fantasy series. especially since sqaure told us originally that every FF game would take place in different worlds and there would be no direct sequels. I knew as soon as I heard the name FFX-2 that they would never be the same.

  • Or

    Haters = People who played only one game of final fantasy. (possibly XIII),
    If the author truly played final fantasy (atleast 7-13) he wouldn’t post this crap and make himself look like an idiot.
    I bet you only played final fantasy 7 and you are so close minded that you were like : “WAIT! that I like, do more of that!”

  • AuthorIsFail

    P.S : WAKE UP! Almost every game or movie has “fate” in it. Maybe you don’t see it because you are an exfanboy who doesn’t have anything else to do rather than wait for final fantasy 7′s remake instead of opening your mind a bit. But if you look closely every game/movie has like a downfall of the hero, “wait, no, I can do it”, the hero rises. Latest example of a movie I saw is ‘Fast & Furious 5′ : “crap, we can’t steal it, too many cops there” and than “i’m in, we can do it, were awesome”. Maybe they don’t use the word fate because it’s more or less for fantasy games/movies.

  • DudeMcNabb

    You complain about Grinding in FFXIII, but you say White Knight was “amazing”? It takes over 500 hours to Max out your character in WKC (GR15).

    “No actual character development to speak of”… I’m not sure we played the same game. FFXIII’s character development was definitely there. Sure most of the characters are initially unlikable (as most characters are) because they all have character flaws to overcome. But to say there was no character development at all? It sounds like you made a judgement about the characters (“annoying”) in the first 3 chapters or so and ignored the rest of the story. The summons were bad though I agree.

    I can tell that from your tastes in JRPG’s (White Knight, FFXII, and Star Ocean) that you are probably a “Gameplay over Story” type of person. You probably didn’t like FFX that much either. Anyway if that is the case then FFXIII wasn’t for you. So it’s no surprise you don’t like it. It doesn’t fit your tastes/expectations. 

  • Djfanboy

    Anyone
    who commented harshly on this letter is a freaking idiot.  You are the
    reason Square Enix doesn’t have to try to make good games.  They know that
    there will always be fans that would drink Square Enix’ urine if it were
    packaged with the Final Fantasy logo
    on it.  I get so tired of fans accepting garbage just because of the brand
    (Smallville, X-Men movie franchise, Resident
    Evil movie franchise, Madden games). 
    The reality is that companies don’t give 2 shits about you.  They just
    want to increase profits while doing less work, and the easiest way to do this
    is to “train” puppy dog fans like you to actually appreciate subpar
    games.  The problem is that there are fans that exist in a vacuum.  They
    are actually the close-minded ones because they refuse to admit that Square Enix
    has dropped the ball multiple times over the years.  Seriously, WTF was Xenosaga in comparison to Xenogears?  WTF was FF X-2 in comparison to FF X?  WTF has any of the post PlayStation
    2 Square Enix RPGs been up against PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 RPGs.  Have
    you forgotten that they have fucked us on the Kingdom Hearts series (6 years)?  Have you forgotten about the
    shitty shitfest Dirge of Cerberus
    was?  Have you forgotten about the PlayStation 3 Final Fantasy 7 demonstration?  Have you forgotten about the
    fact that Cloud Strife has spent more time jumping into other games instead of
    participating in his own universe?  have you forgotten about the fact that
    western RPGs have taken over the gaming industry and gamers have forgotten
    about the Japanese game scene entirely BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO APPRECIATE THEIR
    FANBASE AND GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT?  Think about the Street Fighter series.  CAPCOM
    tried every kind of variation of gameplay with that franchise and nearly ran it
    into the ground.  IT WAS NOT UNTIL THEY WENT BACK TO THE CORE FUNDAMENTALS
    THAT MADE THEIR FRANCHISE POPULAR that they were able to reinvigorate the
    franchise (and the fighting genre as a whole). Have you forgotten about the boat
    load of problems FF 14 was released
    with.  Have you forgotten about The Last
    Remnant?  Don’t sit here and try to act like this writer doesn’t have
    ground with his arguments. 

    …phew!

    Now that I’ve gotten out all that aggression, I’ll talk about some things I didn’t
    agree with in this post.

    1) X-2 to me was a tolerable game and
    did give some closure to X, which I really enjoyed playing.

    2) Advent Children was an awesome
    movie that captured the ‘7’ universe (materia usage, sword and gun play,
    summons, etc.) really well.

    3) Fate, predestination, and other existential topics are the bread and butter
    of the Final Fantasy franchise.

  • Djfanboy

    Anyone
    who commented harshly on this letter is a freaking idiot.  You are the
    reason Square Enix doesn’t have to try to make good games.  They know that
    there will always be fans that would drink Square Enix’ urine if it were
    packaged with the Final Fantasy logo
    on it.  I get so tired of fans accepting garbage just because of the brand
    (Smallville, X-Men movie franchise, Resident
    Evil movie franchise, Madden games). 
    The reality is that companies don’t give 2 shits about you.  They just
    want to increase profits while doing less work, and the easiest way to do this
    is to “train” puppy dog fans like you to actually appreciate subpar
    games.  The problem is that there are fans that exist in a vacuum.  They
    are actually the close-minded ones because they refuse to admit that Square Enix
    has dropped the ball multiple times over the years.  Seriously, WTF was Xenosaga in comparison to Xenogears?  WTF was FF X-2 in comparison to FF X?  WTF has any of the post PlayStation
    2 Square Enix RPGs been up against PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 RPGs.  Have
    you forgotten that they have fucked us on the Kingdom Hearts series (6 years)?  Have you forgotten about the
    shitty shitfest Dirge of Cerberus
    was?  Have you forgotten about the PlayStation 3 Final Fantasy 7 demonstration?  Have you forgotten about the
    fact that Cloud Strife has spent more time jumping into other games instead of
    participating in his own universe?  have you forgotten about the fact that
    western RPGs have taken over the gaming industry and gamers have forgotten
    about the Japanese game scene entirely BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO APPRECIATE THEIR
    FANBASE AND GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT?  Think about the Street Fighter series.  CAPCOM
    tried every kind of variation of gameplay with that franchise and nearly ran it
    into the ground.  IT WAS NOT UNTIL THEY WENT BACK TO THE CORE FUNDAMENTALS
    THAT MADE THEIR FRANCHISE POPULAR that they were able to reinvigorate the
    franchise (and the fighting genre as a whole). Have you forgotten about the boat
    load of problems FF 14 was released
    with.  Have you forgotten about The Last
    Remnant?  Don’t sit here and try to act like this writer doesn’t have
    ground with his arguments. 

    …phew!

    Now that I’ve gotten out all that aggression, I’ll talk about some things I didn’t
    agree with in this post.

    1) X-2 to me was a tolerable game and
    did give some closure to X, which I really enjoyed playing.

    2) Advent Children was an awesome
    movie that captured the ‘7’ universe (materia usage, sword and gun play,
    summons, etc.) really well.

    3) Fate, predestination, and other existential topics are the bread and butter
    of the Final Fantasy franchise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chrismharper Christopher Harper

    Anyone
    who commented harshly on this letter is a freaking idiot.  You are the
    reason Square Enix doesn’t have to try to make good games.  They know that
    there will always be fans that would drink Square Enix’ urine if it were
    packaged with the Final Fantasy logo
    on it.  I get so tired of fans accepting garbage just because of the brand
    (Smallville, X-Men movie franchise, Resident
    Evil movie franchise, Madden games). 
    The reality is that companies don’t give 2 shits about you.  They just
    want to increase profits while doing less work, and the easiest way to do this
    is to “train” puppy dog fans like you to actually appreciate subpar
    games.  The problem is that there are fans that exist in a vacuum.  They
    are actually the close-minded ones because they refuse to admit that Square Enix
    has dropped the ball multiple times over the years.  Seriously, WTF was Xenosaga in comparison to Xenogears?  WTF was FF X-2 in comparison to FF X?  WTF has any of the post PlayStation
    2 Square Enix RPGs been up against PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 RPGs.  Have
    you forgotten that they have fucked us on the Kingdom Hearts series (6 years)?  Have you forgotten about the
    shitty shitfest Dirge of Cerberus
    was?  Have you forgotten about the PlayStation 3 Final Fantasy 7 demonstration?  Have you forgotten about the
    fact that Cloud Strife has spent more time jumping into other games instead of
    participating in his own universe?  have you forgotten about the fact that
    western RPGs have taken over the gaming industry and gamers have forgotten
    about the Japanese game scene entirely BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO APPRECIATE THEIR
    FANBASE AND GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT?  Think about the Street Fighter series.  CAPCOM
    tried every kind of variation of gameplay with that franchise and nearly ran it
    into the ground.  IT WAS NOT UNTIL THEY WENT BACK TO THE CORE FUNDAMENTALS
    THAT MADE THEIR FRANCHISE POPULAR that they were able to reinvigorate the
    franchise (and the fighting genre as a whole). Have you forgotten about the boat
    load of problems FF 14 was released
    with.  Have you forgotten about The Last
    Remnant?  Don’t sit here and try to act like this writer doesn’t have
    ground with his arguments. 

    …phew!

    Now that I’ve gotten out all that aggression, I’ll talk about some things I didn’t
    agree with in this post.

    1) X-2 to me was a tolerable game and
    did give some closure to X, which I really enjoyed playing.

    2) Advent Children was an awesome
    movie that captured the ‘7’ universe (materia usage, sword and gun play,
    summons, etc.) really well.

    3) Fate, predestination, and other existential topics are the bread and butter
    of the Final Fantasy franchise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chrismharper Christopher Harper

    Anyone
    who commented harshly on this letter is a freaking idiot.  You are the
    reason Square Enix doesn’t have to try to make good games.  They know that
    there will always be fans that would drink Square Enix’ urine if it were
    packaged with the Final Fantasy logo
    on it.  I get so tired of fans accepting garbage just because of the brand
    (Smallville, X-Men movie franchise, Resident
    Evil movie franchise, Madden games). 
    The reality is that companies don’t give 2 shits about you.  They just
    want to increase profits while doing less work, and the easiest way to do this
    is to “train” puppy dog fans like you to actually appreciate subpar
    games.  The problem is that there are fans that exist in a vacuum.  They
    are actually the close-minded ones because they refuse to admit that Square Enix
    has dropped the ball multiple times over the years.  Seriously, WTF was Xenosaga in comparison to Xenogears?  WTF was FF X-2 in comparison to FF X?  WTF has any of the post PlayStation
    2 Square Enix RPGs been up against PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 RPGs.  Have
    you forgotten that they have fucked us on the Kingdom Hearts series (6 years)?  Have you forgotten about the
    shitty shitfest Dirge of Cerberus
    was?  Have you forgotten about the PlayStation 3 Final Fantasy 7 demonstration?  Have you forgotten about the
    fact that Cloud Strife has spent more time jumping into other games instead of
    participating in his own universe?  have you forgotten about the fact that
    western RPGs have taken over the gaming industry and gamers have forgotten
    about the Japanese game scene entirely BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO APPRECIATE THEIR
    FANBASE AND GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT?  Think about the Street Fighter series.  CAPCOM
    tried every kind of variation of gameplay with that franchise and nearly ran it
    into the ground.  IT WAS NOT UNTIL THEY WENT BACK TO THE CORE FUNDAMENTALS
    THAT MADE THEIR FRANCHISE POPULAR that they were able to reinvigorate the
    franchise (and the fighting genre as a whole). Have you forgotten about the boat
    load of problems FF 14 was released
    with.  Have you forgotten about The Last
    Remnant?  Don’t sit here and try to act like this writer doesn’t have
    ground with his arguments. 

    …phew!

    Now that I’ve gotten out all that aggression, I’ll talk about some things I didn’t
    agree with in this post.

    1) X-2 to me was a tolerable game and
    did give some closure to X, which I really enjoyed playing.

    2) Advent Children was an awesome
    movie that captured the ‘7’ universe (materia usage, sword and gun play,
    summons, etc.) really well.

    3) Fate, predestination, and other existential topics are the bread and butter
    of the Final Fantasy franchise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chrismharper Christopher Harper

    Anyone
    who commented harshly on this letter is a freaking idiot.  You are the
    reason Square Enix doesn’t have to try to make good games.  They know that
    there will always be fans that would drink Square Enix’ urine if it were
    packaged with the Final Fantasy logo
    on it.  I get so tired of fans accepting garbage just because of the brand
    (Smallville, X-Men movie franchise, Resident
    Evil movie franchise, Madden games). 
    The reality is that companies don’t give 2 shits about you.  They just
    want to increase profits while doing less work, and the easiest way to do this
    is to “train” puppy dog fans like you to actually appreciate subpar
    games.  The problem is that there are fans that exist in a vacuum.  They
    are actually the close-minded ones because they refuse to admit that Square Enix
    has dropped the ball multiple times over the years.  Seriously, WTF was Xenosaga in comparison to Xenogears?  WTF was FF X-2 in comparison to FF X?  WTF has any of the post PlayStation
    2 Square Enix RPGs been up against PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 RPGs.  Have
    you forgotten that they have fucked us on the Kingdom Hearts series (6 years)?  Have you forgotten about the
    shitty shitfest Dirge of Cerberus
    was?  Have you forgotten about the PlayStation 3 Final Fantasy 7 demonstration?  Have you forgotten about the
    fact that Cloud Strife has spent more time jumping into other games instead of
    participating in his own universe?  have you forgotten about the fact that
    western RPGs have taken over the gaming industry and gamers have forgotten
    about the Japanese game scene entirely BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO APPRECIATE THEIR
    FANBASE AND GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT?  Think about the Street Fighter series.  CAPCOM
    tried every kind of variation of gameplay with that franchise and nearly ran it
    into the ground.  IT WAS NOT UNTIL THEY WENT BACK TO THE CORE FUNDAMENTALS
    THAT MADE THEIR FRANCHISE POPULAR that they were able to reinvigorate the
    franchise (and the fighting genre as a whole). Have you forgotten about the boat
    load of problems FF 14 was released
    with.  Have you forgotten about The Last
    Remnant?  Don’t sit here and try to act like this writer doesn’t have
    ground with his arguments. 

    …phew!

    Now that I’ve gotten out all that aggression, I’ll talk about some things I didn’t
    agree with in this post.

    1) X-2 to me was a tolerable game and
    did give some closure to X, which I really enjoyed playing.

    2) Advent Children was an awesome
    movie that captured the ‘7’ universe (materia usage, sword and gun play,
    summons, etc.) really well.

    3) Fate, predestination, and other existential topics are the bread and butter
    of the Final Fantasy franchise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chrismharper Christopher Harper

    Anyone
    who commented harshly on this letter is a freaking idiot.  You are the
    reason Square Enix doesn’t have to try to make good games.  They know that
    there will always be fans that would drink Square Enix’ urine if it were
    packaged with the Final Fantasy logo
    on it.  I get so tired of fans accepting garbage just because of the brand
    (Smallville, X-Men movie franchise, Resident
    Evil movie franchise, Madden games). 
    The reality is that companies don’t give 2 shits about you.  They just
    want to increase profits while doing less work, and the easiest way to do this
    is to “train” puppy dog fans like you to actually appreciate subpar
    games.  The problem is that there are fans that exist in a vacuum.  They
    are actually the close-minded ones because they refuse to admit that Square Enix
    has dropped the ball multiple times over the years.  Seriously, WTF was Xenosaga in comparison to Xenogears?  WTF was FF X-2 in comparison to FF X?  WTF has any of the post PlayStation
    2 Square Enix RPGs been up against PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 RPGs.  Have
    you forgotten that they have fucked us on the Kingdom Hearts series (6 years)?  Have you forgotten about the
    shitty shitfest Dirge of Cerberus
    was?  Have you forgotten about the PlayStation 3 Final Fantasy 7 demonstration?  Have you forgotten about the
    fact that Cloud Strife has spent more time jumping into other games instead of
    participating in his own universe?  have you forgotten about the fact that
    western RPGs have taken over the gaming industry and gamers have forgotten
    about the Japanese game scene entirely BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO APPRECIATE THEIR
    FANBASE AND GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT?  Think about the Street Fighter series.  CAPCOM
    tried every kind of variation of gameplay with that franchise and nearly ran it
    into the ground.  IT WAS NOT UNTIL THEY WENT BACK TO THE CORE FUNDAMENTALS
    THAT MADE THEIR FRANCHISE POPULAR that they were able to reinvigorate the
    franchise (and the fighting genre as a whole). Have you forgotten about the boat
    load of problems FF 14 was released
    with.  Have you forgotten about The Last
    Remnant?  Don’t sit here and try to act like this writer doesn’t have
    ground with his arguments. 

    …phew!

    Now that I’ve gotten out all that aggression, I’ll talk about some things I didn’t
    agree with in this post.

    1) X-2 to me was a tolerable game and
    did give some closure to X, which I really enjoyed playing.

    2) Advent Children was an awesome
    movie that captured the ‘7’ universe (materia usage, sword and gun play,
    summons, etc.) really well.

    3) Fate, predestination, and other existential topics are the bread and butter
    of the Final Fantasy franchise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chrismharper Christopher Harper

    Anyone
    who commented harshly on this letter is a freaking idiot.  You are the
    reason Square Enix doesn’t have to try to make good games.  They know that
    there will always be fans that would drink Square Enix’ urine if it were
    packaged with the Final Fantasy logo
    on it.  I get so tired of fans accepting garbage just because of the brand
    (Smallville, X-Men movie franchise, Resident
    Evil movie franchise, Madden games). 
    The reality is that companies don’t give 2 shits about you.  They just
    want to increase profits while doing less work, and the easiest way to do this
    is to “train” puppy dog fans like you to actually appreciate subpar
    games.  The problem is that there are fans that exist in a vacuum.  They
    are actually the close-minded ones because they refuse to admit that Square Enix
    has dropped the ball multiple times over the years.  Seriously, WTF was Xenosaga in comparison to Xenogears?  WTF was FF X-2 in comparison to FF X?  WTF has any of the post PlayStation
    2 Square Enix RPGs been up against PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 RPGs.  Have
    you forgotten that they have fucked us on the Kingdom Hearts series (6 years)?  Have you forgotten about the
    shitty shitfest Dirge of Cerberus
    was?  Have you forgotten about the PlayStation 3 Final Fantasy 7 demonstration?  Have you forgotten about the
    fact that Cloud Strife has spent more time jumping into other games instead of
    participating in his own universe?  have you forgotten about the fact that
    western RPGs have taken over the gaming industry and gamers have forgotten
    about the Japanese game scene entirely BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO APPRECIATE THEIR
    FANBASE AND GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT?  Think about the Street Fighter series.  CAPCOM
    tried every kind of variation of gameplay with that franchise and nearly ran it
    into the ground.  IT WAS NOT UNTIL THEY WENT BACK TO THE CORE FUNDAMENTALS
    THAT MADE THEIR FRANCHISE POPULAR that they were able to reinvigorate the
    franchise (and the fighting genre as a whole). Have you forgotten about the boat
    load of problems FF 14 was released
    with.  Have you forgotten about The Last
    Remnant?  Don’t sit here and try to act like this writer doesn’t have
    ground with his arguments. 

    …phew!

    Now that I’ve gotten out all that aggression, I’ll talk about some things I didn’t
    agree with in this post.

    1) X-2 to me was a tolerable game and
    did give some closure to X, which I really enjoyed playing.

    2) Advent Children was an awesome
    movie that captured the ‘7’ universe (materia usage, sword and gun play,
    summons, etc.) really well.

    3) Fate, predestination, and other existential topics are the bread and butter
    of the Final Fantasy franchise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chrismharper Christopher Harper

    Anyone
    who commented harshly on this letter is a freaking idiot.  You are the
    reason Square Enix doesn’t have to try to make good games.  They know that
    there will always be fans that would drink Square Enix’ urine if it were
    packaged with the Final Fantasy logo
    on it.  I get so tired of fans accepting garbage just because of the brand
    (Smallville, X-Men movie franchise, Resident
    Evil movie franchise, Madden games). 
    The reality is that companies don’t give 2 shits about you.  They just
    want to increase profits while doing less work, and the easiest way to do this
    is to “train” puppy dog fans like you to actually appreciate subpar
    games.  The problem is that there are fans that exist in a vacuum.  They
    are actually the close-minded ones because they refuse to admit that Square Enix
    has dropped the ball multiple times over the years.  Seriously, WTF was Xenosaga in comparison to Xenogears?  WTF was FF X-2 in comparison to FF X?  WTF has any of the post PlayStation
    2 Square Enix RPGs been up against PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 RPGs.  Have
    you forgotten that they have fucked us on the Kingdom Hearts series (6 years)?  Have you forgotten about the
    shitty shitfest Dirge of Cerberus
    was?  Have you forgotten about the PlayStation 3 Final Fantasy 7 demonstration?  Have you forgotten about the
    fact that Cloud Strife has spent more time jumping into other games instead of
    participating in his own universe?  have you forgotten about the fact that
    western RPGs have taken over the gaming industry and gamers have forgotten
    about the Japanese game scene entirely BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO APPRECIATE THEIR
    FANBASE AND GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT?  Think about the Street Fighter series.  CAPCOM
    tried every kind of variation of gameplay with that franchise and nearly ran it
    into the ground.  IT WAS NOT UNTIL THEY WENT BACK TO THE CORE FUNDAMENTALS
    THAT MADE THEIR FRANCHISE POPULAR that they were able to reinvigorate the
    franchise (and the fighting genre as a whole). Have you forgotten about the boat
    load of problems FF 14 was released
    with.  Have you forgotten about The Last
    Remnant?  Don’t sit here and try to act like this writer doesn’t have
    ground with his arguments. 

    …phew!

    Now that I’ve gotten out all that aggression, I’ll talk about some things I didn’t
    agree with in this post.

    1) X-2 to me was a tolerable game and
    did give some closure to X, which I really enjoyed playing.

    2) Advent Children was an awesome
    movie that captured the ‘7’ universe (materia usage, sword and gun play,
    summons, etc.) really well.

    3) Fate, predestination, and other existential topics are the bread and butter
    of the Final Fantasy franchise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chrismharper Christopher Harper

    Anyone
    who commented harshly on this letter is a freaking idiot.  You are the
    reason Square Enix doesn’t have to try to make good games.  They know that
    there will always be fans that would drink Square Enix’ urine if it were
    packaged with the Final Fantasy logo
    on it.  I get so tired of fans accepting garbage just because of the brand
    (Smallville, X-Men movie franchise, Resident
    Evil movie franchise, Madden games). 
    The reality is that companies don’t give 2 shits about you.  They just
    want to increase profits while doing less work, and the easiest way to do this
    is to “train” puppy dog fans like you to actually appreciate subpar
    games.  The problem is that there are fans that exist in a vacuum.  They
    are actually the close-minded ones because they refuse to admit that Square Enix
    has dropped the ball multiple times over the years.  Seriously, WTF was Xenosaga in comparison to Xenogears?  WTF was FF X-2 in comparison to FF X?  WTF has any of the post PlayStation
    2 Square Enix RPGs been up against PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2 RPGs.  Have
    you forgotten that they have fucked us on the Kingdom Hearts series (6 years)?  Have you forgotten about the
    shitty shitfest Dirge of Cerberus
    was?  Have you forgotten about the PlayStation 3 Final Fantasy 7 demonstration?  Have you forgotten about the
    fact that Cloud Strife has spent more time jumping into other games instead of
    participating in his own universe?  have you forgotten about the fact that
    western RPGs have taken over the gaming industry and gamers have forgotten
    about the Japanese game scene entirely BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO APPRECIATE THEIR
    FANBASE AND GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT?  Think about the Street Fighter series.  CAPCOM
    tried every kind of variation of gameplay with that franchise and nearly ran it
    into the ground.  IT WAS NOT UNTIL THEY WENT BACK TO THE CORE FUNDAMENTALS
    THAT MADE THEIR FRANCHISE POPULAR that they were able to reinvigorate the
    franchise (and the fighting genre as a whole). Have you forgotten about the boat
    load of problems FF 14 was released
    with.  Have you forgotten about The Last
    Remnant?  Don’t sit here and try to act like this writer doesn’t have
    ground with his arguments. 

    …phew!

    Now that I’ve gotten out all that aggression, I’ll talk about some things I didn’t
    agree with in this post.

    1) X-2 to me was a tolerable game and
    did give some closure to X, which I really enjoyed playing.

    2) Advent Children was an awesome
    movie that captured the ‘7’ universe (materia usage, sword and gun play,
    summons, etc.) really well.

    3) Fate, predestination, and other existential topics are the bread and butter
    of the Final Fantasy franchise.

  • Bokip

    squaresoft blows now

  • Yourdad

    stfu noob.

  • Djfanboy

    yes sir.  i’ll stfu because i’ve said all that i need to say.  your reply is like a fungus growing on the side of an old tree i.e.  a parasite attaching itself to something strong, solid, and wise.  i dont expect you to get the analogy.  it’s for us higher functioning humans.

  • get over it.

    I was trying to resist from posting in this blog simply because I didn’t want to get into one of those silly debates but I had to do it. FIRST OF ALL let me begin by saying that true, making a sequel to XIII was in fact extremely unexpected considering that the ending was quite conclusive(leaving no more loose ends). I agree it will have to be good for square enix to pull this one off. This is coming from a guy who thought FF XIII was actually a very good game. Just because it was linear and it had a couple of dumb characters everyone start bitching about it. What about the captivating story? The original brand new world? The message the story is trying to tell us? Not to mention it was the first in full HD. Square dropped the ball only because they were trying to evolve the gameplay and true fans need to acknowledge this. 

    JUST BECAUSE YOU “LOVE” FF7 SO MUCH DOESN’T MEAN EVERY GAME HAS TO BE COMPARED TO IT. 

    People also have to realize that square has made tweaks to it’s FF games for some time now. the last game that actually came out with an ATB gauge fighting style was 9. Are you saying everything after that was garbage? I happened to enjoy all of the games after it even though they were a bit different. 

  • get over it.

    and BTW, FF XIII is the 3rd best selling FF game to date. the only ones on top are FF VII and FFX. So to square making a sequel probably seemed like a GOOD idea don’t you think?

  • Djfanboy

    I really appreciate your comment, man.  However, I do
    have some contentions to rise about it. 

    Whether or not the story captivates is really a subjective thing.  I
    personally think that FF3 has the best story, but that is just my
    opinion.  I think that we are part of a generation of gamers that has
    truly seen the evolution of in-game story. 

     

    Is it so wrong for us to expect a non-linear story when,
    almost every game Square(Enix) has made has been less restrictive in story with
    more restrictive technology?  Some people get on here and assume that if
    you don’t like this game, you must hate all the other games except FF7 or FF10. 
    That’s simply not true.  In fact the opposite is truer.  I have
    bought and played most of the Square(Enix) titles. 

     

    What a lot of people do not understand is the expectations
    of this game.  Think back to whenever Square(Enix) made the console leap
    forward with the final fantasy franchise.

    When they jumped onto S.N.E.S., that title was amazing (1 year after
    launch). 

    When they jumped onto P.S.1, that title (FF7) was amazing (less than a year
    from launch).

    When they jumped to P.S. 2, that title (FF10)was amazing (less than a year from
    launch).

    …and then there was silence.

    Square(Enix) waited 4 years after the launch of the next-gen consoles to put
    this game out.  As fans, we have always seen the next generation console
    jump game to be one of the stands out in the series.  That is what has
    driven up most of the hype and sales, but that is also what drove up the
    expectations.  You say that FF13 is the 3rd best selling game as a defense
    of its quality.  There are 3 problems with that statement. 

     

    1)     
    Numbers mean nothing up against quality.  There are a lot of horrible movies that have
    out sold better films based off marketing alone.  The same could be said for games.

     

    2)     
    Simply putting the Final Fantasy name on the
    product would have driven up sales because this is the first FF on the new
    consoles.  If you do the research, FF7
    and FF10 were the other 2 top sellers and they were also the firsts on their
    respective consoles.

     

    3)     
    Delaying this game for 4 years pretty much made
    sure fans were starving for it.  I should
    know, I pre-ordered it and set it up as my ‘gift’ for getting into graduate
    school.

     

    …so as you can see, Square(Enix) has given its fans a reason
    to do 2 things

     

    1)     
    Buy its products based off brand recognition
    alone  

     

    2)     
    Expect a quality product when doing so.

     

    Another way this letter is mischaracterized is by the fact
    that this guy is only talking about the FF titles from Square(Enix). that’s not
    true.  He is referring to the company’s
    complete legacy.  Square(Enix) has been
    behind some of the best non-FF game out there (Vagrant Story, Legend of Dragoon,
    Kingdom Hearts, etc.) and they have seemed to drop the ball only recently.  That’s why this guy is complaining.  FF13 was not perfect, but FF14 was straight
    up bad.  Seriously go check out the
    reviews or just simply play the game.  Before
    that, FF12 wasn’t really bad but fans didn’t like the gambit system as much (I didn’t
    mind it though). 

     

    It seems that many people are coming to the defense of Square(Enix)
    because they feel that people are only judging them up against the FF7
    franchise.  I think this is mostly true,
    but even if it is, this is partially Square(Enix)’s fault.  Square(Enix) has used the FF7 franchise to
    cash in innumerable times.  They have
    basically given us an FF7 lap dance every year, but we can’t “touch”.  So some of that judgment is Square(Enix)’s
    fault.  They keep saying to us, “appreciate
    this new thing that we are doing and don’t judges us on the success of only one
    franchise”, but at the same time, they are always bringing FF7 up without
    provocation like they are saying “remember that really cool game we made?”  You know it and I know it.

     

    I don’t feel like typing anymore.  The truth is I will probably buy or at least look at FF13, because despite the most recent titles, Square has been good to me for most of the years.  however, I refuse to defend an unimpressive game simply because I am a fan of Square.

  • Djfanboy

    I really appreciate your comment, man.  However, I do
    have some contentions to rise about it. 

    Whether or not the story captivates is really a subjective thing.  I
    personally think that FF3 has the best story, but that is just my
    opinion.  I think that we are part of a generation of gamers that has
    truly seen the evolution of in-game story. 

     

    Is it so wrong for us to expect a non-linear story when,
    almost every game Square(Enix) has made has been less restrictive in story with
    more restrictive technology?  Some people get on here and assume that if
    you don’t like this game, you must hate all the other games except FF7 or FF10. 
    That’s simply not true.  In fact the opposite is truer.  I have
    bought and played most of the Square(Enix) titles. 

     

    What a lot of people do not understand is the expectations
    of this game.  Think back to whenever Square(Enix) made the console leap
    forward with the final fantasy franchise.

    When they jumped onto S.N.E.S., that title was amazing (1 year after
    launch). 

    When they jumped onto P.S.1, that title (FF7) was amazing (less than a year
    from launch).

    When they jumped to P.S. 2, that title (FF10)was amazing (less than a year from
    launch).

    …and then there was silence.

    Square(Enix) waited 4 years after the launch of the next-gen consoles to put
    this game out.  As fans, we have always seen the next generation console
    jump game to be one of the stands out in the series.  That is what has
    driven up most of the hype and sales, but that is also what drove up the
    expectations.  You say that FF13 is the 3rd best selling game as a defense
    of its quality.  There are 3 problems with that statement. 

     

    1)     
    Numbers mean nothing up against quality.  There are a lot of horrible movies that have
    out sold better films based off marketing alone.  The same could be said for games.

     

    2)     
    Simply putting the Final Fantasy name on the
    product would have driven up sales because this is the first FF on the new
    consoles.  If you do the research, FF7
    and FF10 were the other 2 top sellers and they were also the firsts on their
    respective consoles.

     

    3)     
    Delaying this game for 4 years pretty much made
    sure fans were starving for it.  I should
    know, I pre-ordered it and set it up as my ‘gift’ for getting into graduate
    school.

     

    …so as you can see, Square(Enix) has given its fans a reason
    to do 2 things

     

    1)     
    Buy its products based off brand recognition
    alone  

     

    2)     
    Expect a quality product when doing so.

     

    Another way this letter is mischaracterized is by the fact
    that this guy is only talking about the FF titles from Square(Enix). that’s not
    true.  He is referring to the company’s
    complete legacy.  Square(Enix) has been
    behind some of the best non-FF game out there (Vagrant Story, Legend of Dragoon,
    Kingdom Hearts, etc.) and they have seemed to drop the ball only recently.  That’s why this guy is complaining.  FF13 was not perfect, but FF14 was straight
    up bad.  Seriously go check out the
    reviews or just simply play the game.  Before
    that, FF12 wasn’t really bad but fans didn’t like the gambit system as much (I didn’t
    mind it though). 

     

    It seems that many people are coming to the defense of Square(Enix)
    because they feel that people are only judging them up against the FF7
    franchise.  I think this is mostly true,
    but even if it is, this is partially Square(Enix)’s fault.  Square(Enix) has used the FF7 franchise to
    cash in innumerable times.  They have
    basically given us an FF7 lap dance every year, but we can’t “touch”.  So some of that judgment is Square(Enix)’s
    fault.  They keep saying to us, “appreciate
    this new thing that we are doing and don’t judges us on the success of only one
    franchise”, but at the same time, they are always bringing FF7 up without
    provocation like they are saying “remember that really cool game we made?”  You know it and I know it.

     

    I don’t feel like typing anymore. The truth is I will
    probably buy or at least look at FF13, because despite the most recent titles,
    Square has been good to me for most of the years.  however, I refuse to
    defend an unimpressive game simply because I am a fan of Square.

     

     

  • Jeremiah K. Garrett

    You’re the idiot :)

    I agree Dirge of Cerberus was pretty dreadful, but I loved XIII.  It’s not because of the series.  It’s the storyline, the graphics, and the battle-mode.  The only complaint I’ve heard that has merit is that the first half of the storyline is so straight-forward. 

     *****(Spoiler Alert)*****  

    Yet this was an intentional move by SE to get the player stuck in the hopeless and monotonous mindset of the characters.  They succeeded.  People hated it, just like the characters did.  People felt hopeless, even dreadful.  That’s what they wanted.  To hit Pulse was a refreshing breath of air, quite unexpected after the first half of the game, just as it was for the characters.  Really, the true, full fun does not come until after the main storyline is finished; again, the truth for the characters, as that was when they only experienced true freedom.

    ******(Resume Spoiler-Free Reading)*****

    Regarding Cloud, SE doesn’t do a remake of FFVII or a direct sequel for two reasons:
    1) They refuse to do so without the original staff, which they have not successfully brought back together yet.
    2) Man cannot remake God.  FFVII is an idol in the minds of its fans.  While it was and is a great game, nothing again can ever be what we want it to be because A) everyone wants something different than the other guy and B) we expect perfection and idolization, something no one can achieve.  Success is a journey, not a destination.  

    Once you get where you were going you realize it’s not all you made it up to be, and you will be dissatisfied to stay there.  SE lives by that motto: always innovating, never reproducing. Even sequels have significant differences, and rarely do sequels live up to their predescors–much like good Disney movies.  Hmm… Kingdom Hearts… Disney… SE… Well…. There you go.

  • Jeremiah K. Garrett

    I don’t think you’ll be playing it on an LE Verses XIII Console, as I doubt we’ll ever actually see Verses XIII made.  However, if it is made….. I want one :)

  • Jeremiah K. Garrett

    Scratch that–they now partnered with EA.

  • Jeremiah K. Garrett

    How many times are you going to post the same retarded comment?

  • Jeremiah K. Garrett

    Update: I’m now around 180 hours in and still loving it.  I’m down to 2 trophies–5-star ratings in 2 more Cie’th Mark Battles and the Treasure Hunter.  While I’m probably going to be grinding away at Treasure Hunter for hours on end due to needing Traphezedrons, I still look forward to actually completing my first game 100%.  I got 99.8% with Final Fantasy X due to one single Treasure Chest in a Temple I couldn’t get back to and was so ticked off! Someday, I will finish FFXIII and love it completely.

  • Jeremiah K. Garrett

    Wow.  I take my comment back.  You’re not the idiot.  You’re a complete moron.  Post the exact same reply to every single person that had something to say and didn’t adress a single positive comment made in its defense.  Talk about blank-headed stubbornness.  I don’t think you have any intellect at all.  Straight-up fanboy that idolizes FFVII and everything else is doggie doo to you. (Yes, I realize you attributed good things to other games…)

  • Jeremiah K. Garrett

    Thanks for coming back and saying something intelligible.  What I find surprising is that most people that scream about SE moving away from VII is that most people hated X.  I don’t know what reality is now, but when it was released everyone was saying it was the worst Final Fantasy ever made and that X-2 was even worse when it was announced.  I find it surprising to find someone so adamant about this failure to actually have liked X.  I loved X, but I’m surprised you did.  Perhaps since XII and XIII came out attitudes have changed towards X…

  • Jeremiah K. Garrett

    Sometimes on sleepless nights I get caught away in replying to every commentable comment… It helps me sleep…. I don’t have much free time…

    Star Ocean is great for the mutli-open storyline.  Final Fantasy has always been fairly straightforward, although Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross are frequently considered part of the FF series and are more-so open-ended.  I liked the new Star Ocean; I can’t comment on the rest of the series, as I didn’t play much of it.

    I agree, I don’t like Enix much.  I like the graphics they brought in, but they have taken Square’s and SquareSoft’s legacy and mixed it with many others.  Now that they’ve partnered with Eidos and EA, it’s going to be much more that way.  They’ve almost become a monopoly.  Doesn’t change my opinion of FFXIII, but it does change my opinion of SE.

    In FFXIII though, Hope is an amazing character if you use him right.  He has the potential to have the highest magic in the game.  I didn’t use him much until he had haste, but as soon as he got it I used him almost exclusively.  Every FF game has had needless characters though.  I like that I can use Lightning, Fang, and Hope in this game and still be maxing the others out for times that I need Vanille for Death and such.  I used her a lot for farming Trapehezedrons (sp), as her Instant Death spell can do 999,999 with the proper setup to the Long Guis.

  • Jeremiah K. Garrett

    SqureSoft doesn’t exist now.

  • Zaqareemalcolm

    WTF, Christopher Harper. What kind of propoganda writer are you?
    And then I’d expect you to reply the same exact bullshit again. That, or some retarded reaction comment.
    I just hope Quantum Physics is with me lol

  • Anomylous

    Woah kid, calm down.

  • Done

    who the hell is defending 13 and 13-2?!….good god. I loved you SE, now  I’m rooting for your bankruptcy.  Btw, $45 in DLCs couldn’t revive the broken turd that is 13-2… Changing the lighting of a playing area 6 times, a game does not make. You need to be put down FF

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Amilia-Perez/1439057157 Amilia Perez

    You forgot “Crystals” in your key word based plot generator.

  • Cky182dude

    Alright guys, yes FFXIII wasn’t the best game square enix made. I completely agree with you guys on that. BUT, seriously it isn’t the worst game they made. The story is actually pretty deep and a little hard to follow, if you’re unintelligent and can’t understand the keywords for certain things such l’cie and falcie and every other thing such as the sanctum. If you actually try and understand that they were basically trying to holocaust all the civilians living near this “robot-god” thing, fearing they would be branded by it to do it’s bidding, and understand the war that happened long before the games plot, then you would begin to understand the story and how well done it actually is. Yes it was linear, yes there wasn’t many options… but at the same time, you could upgrade your weapons, you could still make your characters ultimate fighters, you still had those intense cgi scenes (which if you can’t accept the story or even understand it for that fact you wouldn’t see the intensity in it). If this game wasn’t called “FINAL FANTASY” nobody would’ve bashed it as much as they did. This rpg is MUCH better than most other rpgs coming out right now. You’re all just stuck in your classic world with ffvii and xenogears (great games). We’re in 2012 now, let the company experiment with new things, this isn’t the end of the world like many would like you to believe. And there will be a remake of ffvii, just look at all the remakes they’re doing right now. Just let them catch up, cause if you haven’t noticed they’re doing it by order. (not referring to FFX remastered in HD cause it’s not a remake just a remaster)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001762819643 Marcus Antonio Zavala

    To tell the truth, I really like FFXIII and XIII-2(haven’t finished it yet). I don’t know why people think it’s the worst FF game ever. Just makes no sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001762819643 Marcus Antonio Zavala

    I totally agree with you.

  • Awasy31

    Moms are cool! ….haha couldnt get the vomit taste out of my mouth after that part…but ya no great game guys…solid storytelling… solid, solid…the stuff that came out of their mouths..just great