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Uncategorized Wednesday, October 24th 2012 at 12:45 pm

Humans Live Longer So Grandmas Can Help Raise Future Generations

Don’t take this wrong, but humans tend to live a lot longer than they’re actually needed, biologically speaking. Our longevity has puzzled researchers. We live decades longer than our closest primate cousins, and much of that long lifespan is outside of our prime childbearing years. New research from the University of Utah this week provides support for one theory to explain unexpected human longevity: It’s because having grandmothers around is evolutionarily advantageous for future generations. Basically, the whole point of humans living longer is that your children are so terrible and uncontrollable that it takes a team spanning two generations of people just to keep them alive.

Real talk for a second, folks. Whatever your dreams, ambitions, and virtues may be, you are, biologically speaking, a bag of meat designed to pass on DNA that makes more humans. That’s one of the reasons that our long lifespans have puzzled researchers. After humans are out of their child-bearing years there is really no reason (again, speaking from a purely mercenary, evolutionary viewpoint) that we should stick around as long as we do.

A new set of computer simulations and mathematical models of the lifespans of chimpanzees shows that increasing the lifespans of females increased lifespans across the board after several generations. That’s because older females who are past their childbearing years still have an interest in the well-being of their children’s children. Having grandmothers around took some of the pressure of parenting off childbearing females, allowing them to stay healthier and have more children. That, in turn, helped to pass along genes associated with increased lifespan, meaning more and more members of future generations would be inclined toward a longer life. Those grandmothers would have been key to early families surviving as they moved from forests into the savannahs where great apes continued their evolutionary path toward humanity, and may have also been the key to early development or the Werther’s Original and Starlight Mint.

This is a study that makes a lot of sense to this reporter, who took the work of not only two parents, but no less than two grandmothers, to reach adulthood, and still drove all of them nearly nuts doing it. I don’t want to think about how things would have turned out if I hadn’t had those grandmothers keeping an eye on me and ensuring that I didn’t do anything too stupid or morally bankrupt. I’d probably have ended up some sort of terrible reprobate, like a drug dealer or a member of Congress. So, big thanks to grandmothers everywhere, who are, in the long term, responsible for fine art and space travel, as well as well-placed wraps on the knuckles when you had it coming.

(via University of Utah)

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  • Asreal

    “may have also been the key to early development or the Werther’s Original and Starlight Mint”

    LOL :)

    “I’d probably have ended up some sort of terrible reprobate, like a drug dealer or a member of Congress.”

    Oh surely not a member of congress!! :(

  • Jack Bond

    So explain why people used to live to be many centuries old, and why it dropped off by so much.

  • http://amidstdancers.blogspot.com/ Shard Aerliss

    When did humans ever live to be centuries old?

  • manorama

    In India, they talk about several extremely extensive cycles of life that repeat themselves; the YUGAS. Perhaps this could be an explanation?

  • Miss Cellania

    This is not a new theory. Scientists who study menopause figured it out quite some time ago. Menopause is beneficial because it keeps women from eventually dying from too many childbirths, and grandmas are beneficial because they help teach young mothers how to raise children. Now men, they tend to die earlier than women anyway.

  • Jack Bond

    No, people used to live to hundreds and hundreds of years old. Just look at Methuselah who lived to be over 900 years old.

  • Dr. Know

    Erm, Jack, Jack, Jack. That’s what’s called a myth. Didn’t really happen though. I’ve got a religious wimp of a younger brother, and he believes in this stuff too, despite a good deal of higher education toward a degree in neuroscience.

    But, look, as the Gershwins (& Heyward) wrote: the things that you’re liable to read in the Bible, it ain’t necessarily so.

  • Idlethoughts

    Jack, as a religious person I’d like to tell you that no good comes from trying to mix science with religion, the bible is too old and inconsistent with the rest of science to be considered a reliable source of statistical information.

  • Idlethoughts

    Actually I just remembered the part in genesis your referring to and if you look a few verses further it actually says something along the lines of “and 120 years shall be the life of man” supposedly this is the religious explanation for the lifespan despondency.

  • http://www.facebook.com/igor.ferreira.50159 Igor Ferreira

    Natural Selection stopped affecting us since we became dominant. There are more old people around because there are more people around; Science and medicine greatly improved our outcomes not for the sake of Natural Selection, but for our own sake.

  • Jack Bond

    You don’t sound very religious at all, then.
    Then again, I guess you’re the most likely to disbelieve the difference in humanity back then. If you don’t believe in evolution, it’s hard to accept so much change between then and now.

  • Idlethoughts

    I’m actually fairly observant and have put a good deal of studying and thought into religion. However I believe that some parts of the bible are less literal than others, particularly those which, if taken literally, completely, and irreconcilably defy scientific knowledge.

    As evolution, your the only one here who frequently denies it. And even in evolutionary terms that would be a ridiculously major and complex change to have occurred in a mere six thousand, not even accounting for how it could have spread to all populations across the world.

  • Jack Bond

    Of course. When the Bible says someone lived to a precise age, it’s probably not literal.

  • Idlethoughts

    In essence, yes. My only alternative aside from ignoring reason and logic altogether would be to believe that many parts of the bible are just plain wrong. There’s at one place where the math of ages between generations and the dates events occur simply don’t add up, something like that in a literal bible would discredit the accuracy of all events it describes which do not have any external evidence to have them taking place, which due to the bibles age would be most of them.
    I find my interpretation also to be more satisfying when it comes to certain things it says which modern morals don’t agree with.

  • Jack Bond

    The Bible can’t be wrong. It says it isn’t. If it’s lying then it’s completely discredited, and you might as well trash the whole thing.

    By the way, you can’t pick and choose which commands are most “satisfying”. That’s what they call lukewarm Christianity, and it’s just as bad as atheism.

  • Idlethoughts

    Um… well I was hesitant to ask this, but aren’t you gay? What about that thing in leviticus or those other condemnations of homosexuality in the new testament. If you don’t allow for leniency how does this even work for your self?

  • Jack Bond

    Forgive me if I was being unintentionally deceptive. I’m not a Christian, but I was raised in a Christian household, so I know enough about Christianity to see where people may be making a mistake. In the end, I don’t really feel as strongly about any of this as I make it seem. It beats me why I even talk about it, but the need just seems to arise. I apologize if I was frustrating or combative or anything.

  • Idlethoughts

    Well then this is quite humorous, I too am not christian, I am in fact Jewish. I do however take an interest in the beliefs of all religions. That being said I’m honestly relieved this didn’t become a in depth theological debate, as in my experience they tend to leave both sides dissatisfied in the end.
    I greatly respect that you properly represented an argument you yourself did not believe. I wish, for the sake of ensuring fair discussion, that more people were willing or capable of doing what you do. Thank you an interesting and entertaining conversation .