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Uncategorized Monday, May 21st 2012 at 2:10 pm

MPAA’s Chris Dodd Admits That Calling Piracy “Theft” Is A Bad Idea

For years, trade associations like the MPAA and the RIAA have perpetuated the idea that digital piracy, file-sharing, copyright infringment and whatnot are literally theft with statements and ads like the famous “You wouldn’t steal a car” campaign. While piracy may have potentially negative affects on sales (something this is quite hard to actually measure), calling it out-and-out “theft” has never been accurate. Now, finally, MPAA Chairman and CEO Chris Dodd has changed his tune on the issue. About time.

According to Techdirt, Dodd told Variety magazine the following:

“We’re in a transformative period with an explosion of technology that’s going to need content… We’re going to have to be more subtle and consumer-oriented…. We’re on the wrong track if we describe this as thievery.”

You’ll note he doesn’t say it’s not thievery, but rather that it is not in the MPAA’s best interest to describe it as such. Baby steps.

The issue this really points at is the lack of accurate language to describe the various kinds of content exchange that happen on the interwebs. Piracy isn’t theft because it doesn’t necessarily mean the loss of a sale; many pirates would never purchase the things they download. At the same time, “piracy” might not be the perfect term either because there are so many different — and distinct — acts under that umbrella. Downloading a movie from The Pirate Bay, watching it, and then deleting it is different from burning 30 copies and selling them on the street (or sending them to soldiers), which is different from downloading a digital version of a game you purchased years ago but can’t find, which is different from having your employees use illegal copies of Photoshop. And that’s not to say that copying files can’t incorporate elements of theft either. The Sergey Aleynikov case, which ruled that code can’t be stolen, deals with the complex implications of copying files that are otherwise exclusive. In other words, the theft of monopoly.

The issue of piracy, or file-sharing, or copyright infringement in the digital age is very complicated, and the language we use to discuss it is problematically broad. The temptation is to just throw your hands up in the air and shout “semantics!” when someone makes a seemingly nit-picky distinction, but it’s an important part of building a new vocabulary, and that’s really what needs to be done. Overcoming the idea that piracy is theft, and coming around to the idea that piracy is a weirder, grayer area is an important part of having a meaningful dialogue on what digital media is and should be, but it’s only the first step. After all, how can you talk about something if you don’t have the necessary words?

(h/t Techdirt)

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  • Dr Coene

    What a wonderful world it would be if we could copy and download cars.

  • Jim O’Flaherty

    @1017c24ae98f1af6f493262318941a2c:disqus It will happen soon enough. There are already 3D printers which are able to make physical object duplicates. Granted, they are simple at the moment. However, much sooner than you would imagine, these devices will, too, proliferate in large quantities and eventually outrun the law’s ability to “easily and simply” regulate their output.

    The bottom line – the nature of the human mind is to reproduce ideas (memes) such that it simplifies and makes dramatically more efficient the reproduction of the products of ideas. And nothing can stop this or make it sufficiently “immoral” to even significantly impede this outcome. And I’m lovin’ it!

  • Jack Bond

    I’ve actually discovered a way to simplify piracy…

    When you buy a piece of software, the majority of the money you spend doesn’t go to pay for a physical medium. You’re paying people for working to create the software. Therefore, buying software is actually a service, not a good. Therefore, when you pirate, you’re right. It’s not theft. It’s actually receiving a service without paying.

    This further clarifies the fact that when you buy software on a disk, you’re paying for two things… the materials that went into creating the disk, and the work of the people developing your software. At no point do you own the rights to the software itself. Therefore if they decide to lock extra software on the disk and ask you to pay extra to unlock it, they have every right, and you have no right to forcibly unlock that software.

  • fail

     See for a second there you were actually moving in the direction that makes sense (piracy is not theft, which I also agree with) instead of your usual “death to pirates” drivel but then at the end you kinda took a weird irrelevant tangent. Try consolidating your thoughts before you decide to vomit them all over the internet.

  • Jack Bond

    It’s called constructive criticism when you provide suggestions about making things better. What you’re doing is just criticism and it doesn’t make anything better.

    Come back with a comment worth reading and I’ll address it.

  • Bglamb

    It is just kinda nit-picky though isn’t it? When you have to refer to hundreds of years old dictionary definitions instead of common usage. I mean, taking something without paying for it (whether that be a service or a physical good) is understood by everybody except pirates to be theft.

    People don’t sell software, they sell copies of software. When you take a copy without paying for it, it’s meaningless to quibble about whether or not a 500 year old definition of the word ‘theft’ is still applicable. We’ve talked about people “stealing” our ideas for decades, what’s new here?

    The word ‘theft’ needs to move with the times. Or rather, it has moved with the times, and pirates need to stop being such Luddites.

    It’s fair enough to discuss the different implications of different types of theft in the digital age, but this is, despite the authors protestations, just crying semantics to distract from the arguments at hand.

  • Fishy

    Imagine if your licence ran out after a certain number of viewings or something. A video that came with instructions to destroy it after 6 months, or you’d be breaking the law.

    I wonder how many people would be pirates (either moral, or of convenience) then.

  • Fishy

    Every time I saw that advert, all I could think was “I would totally download a car!”

  • Asreal

    >”taking something without paying for it (whether that be a service or a physical good) is understood by everybody except pirates to be theft”

    I’m pretty sure the pirates know this too to be fair. Though they might view it in terms of consequences to them (i.e. “if I get caught, bad things will happen”) rather than commiting the actual offence.

    >”pirates need to stop being such Luddites”

    Oh come on, can you HONESTLY say you’ve never EVER used ANYTHING illegal? Take that stick out of your ass and get a life.

  • Asreal

    Btw, I love the image in the article; hope someone sends it to the MPAA ;)

  • Fishy

    You’ve misunderstood me. I am a massive pirate. I’m not having a go at pirates. I just don’t think piracy is theft. Calling pirates Luddites for using a 500 year-old definition of the word ‘theft’ was not a jab at piracy.

  • Fishy

    Sorry, that should read… “I *do* think piracy is theft.”

  • Jack Bond

    Not a good excuse. Some people may pirate, but they don’t tout it around as if they’re justified just because “technically” it’s not thievery.

  • Jack Bond

    That wouldn’t happen, though, because companies would take better steps to make sure the video would be unviewable. We can’t trust the honor system in this country. (Notably, this is also why socialism won’t work. Just saying.)

    Anyway, it’s one thing to retain something past its license– and don’t get me wrong, that’s still something that needs to be stopped– but it’s entirely another thing to go out and seek illegal software, install it, and use it without paying. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=686532194 Kivå Sånghå

    That is just like saying,
    Because torture can be applied in many ways we should be careful not to call it killing.If your intention is to take it and call it your own you cause the person or company who owned the object of theft to suffer because of your actions. The completion of the action happens when you regard the stolen object as your own. What we should be careful not to do is re-label, “acts of non virtue” by claiming,  ”Since its to hard to impute any logical description to this act of non-virtue, I will continue to commit these acts”I’m no scholar but maybe the reason the world imputed a word such as, “Theft” to this topic of debate is because when first given the opportunity, it sounded a lot like something we already gave a name to. Stealing. 

  • Asreal

    In that case, I’m sorry…

    Friends? :D

  • Jb

     Jack Bond you are an idiot.

  • Jack Bond

    I like how I provide all these detailed explanations and the best anyone else can come up with is calling me an idiot.