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He obv meant that in a ‘game’ sense. Jeez. These are gamers talking on a game. Professionals (somehow). What else would he have meant, he’s not a moron.

I would just like to reiterate how disappointed I am in Geekosystem that they would publish an article that so readily slanders another human being as a “child molester” without ever even bothering to do the tiniest bit of research on the person or incident in which the article is about. It seems like you guys didn’t even bother to read the entire article upon which you are basing such hideously slanderous accusations. It’s not like Stephano isn’t a famous e-sports figure with a well documented history of having a ridiculous sense of humor. This is some monumental irresponsibility on the part of Geekosystem. You people can’t even get his name right, and yet you feel perfectly content as “journalists” to report on a global platform that you think there is no reason not to suspect that he molested a child? That is quite seriously horrifying. How is this any different from Louie C. K. doing a bit about beating his children? As an entity which regularly claims to support the free and unrestrained exercise of humor and comedy, you guys owe Stephano an extremely public apology.

He can do whatever he like, because he is Stephano (godlike). And EG is bunch of losers with money in their pockets. But still losers.

I hope that the private jokes of everyone who works at Geekosystem are treated with the same lack of journalistic integrity as Geekosystem has treated Stephano’s, and I hope all of your families and friends and fans read the articles about you and believe you to be exactly what the articles claim you to be. The fact that you actually published a serious article claiming Stephano to be a child molester simply because of some offhand joke he made is disgusting. This is the absolute height of irresponsibility.

Child molesting and Molesters are no laughing matter. Period.

Honestly, why the hell do I even come to this site? If Geekosystem can’t even get a famous Starcraft player’s name right, let alone completely fumble the details on a highly publicized story on him and falsely accuse him of being a child molester, why should I trust Geekosystem’s accuracy on science or anything else? This place has lost all credibility for me. I’m so monumentally disgusted.

Because no one else gives a flying fuck for some shitty nerd that plays Starcraft.

According to Geekosystem “There’s no reason to think that this guy wasn’t serious.” about molesting a child. If you bothered to read anything besides Geekosystem on the subject, you’d know that Stephano had done nothing more than make a stupid private joke. His joke may have been in bad taste, but it doesn’t even begin to compare to the gross negligence and horrifying irresponsibility of a journalistic publication reporting that there is no reason not to believe someone is a child molester, when there is in fact every reason not to believe so. This has nothing to do with a “high horse”, and everything to do with the absolute bare minimum of ethical conduct expected of a journalistic outlet. The willing slander of a clearly innocent person is a far greater injustice than all the bad jokes in the world combined. It’s disgusting. And the fact that they refuse to correct their mistake is mind blowing. This place has absolute zero credibility.

Can you point out where the almighty Geekosystem made this accusation? They point out what he said and his clan’s decision to ban him… they even venture to state that child molestation is wrong (the fools!). Where do they infer that he is a paedophile?
It’s not what you say, it’s the utterly sanctimonious way in which you are saying it. Of course such accusations are very serious, but would you care to point out the particular line where Geekosystem comitted this heinous crime?
If you can’t, does this make you guilty of your own crime: not reading the fucking article and flying off the handle? (Pot, meet kettle.)
I hope to god you are just trolling, seriously.

I’m sorry, I’m not criticizing you for not reading beyond Geekosystem. Nobody should have to, Geekosystem should be trustworthy, but they’re unfortunately not.

Child molestation is about as serious a crime as crimes get, but I personally see no limitations on the free expression of humor. As a part Jew, I enjoy even Holocaust jokes.

The article slanders Stephano by reporting that there’s no reason not to believe Stephano actually molested a child. It’s equivalent to a publication reporting that there’s no reason not to believe Louis C. K. raped a woman. The only difference being that Stephano is not known as a comedian, so anyone reading the article walks away with the impression that Stephano actually molested a child.

I come to Geekosystem to be entertained by interesting news, and I get pretty annoyed when my sources of information are willfully inaccurate. Forgetting the ethical injustice of falsely reporting to thousands of people that someone to be a child molester, but of what value does a self purported “geek” haven have if they exercise zero journalistic integrity, zero interest in the accurately reporting stories about famous video game players, and as a result exhibit a complete disregard for the most fundamental and cherished geek principles of science, philosophy and knowledge? Am I really the only one who comes here to be enriched by interesting and accurate news? Is this site really no better than a tabloid?

“No one is saying that it’s easy conveying a sarcastic or joking tone in
an online chat, but the comment is completely deadpan. There’s no reason
to think that this guy wasn’t serious.”

“You got all of that from those two sentences? Really!?”

Uh, yes. Two sentences is more than sufficient to slander someone when reported by a publication. Hell, three mere words would be more than sufficient. Imagine this line “Clooney rapes teen.” What’s more difficult about the situation is that Stephano is not famous enough for people to care to double check the accuracy of such a report, but famous enough for people to remember his name and perpetually believe him to be a child molester.

“…show me one news site/agency that is not biased?”

We’re not talking about murky, grey economic arguments which are subject to a gradient of subjective perspectives, we’re talking about whether or not somebody physically sat in a real life room and molested a child, a situation of which there is absolutely -> ZERO <- evidence to indicate that it ever took place. This entire story is based on an eight word instant message made over a video game. No suspected victim exists. No evidence exists whatsoever that this ever occurred, in any form. Bias has absolutely nothing to do with it.

"Is it worth the moral crusade?"

As a fan of Stephano, Starcraft, and geekdom in general, yes, it is worth the "moral crusade". The veracity of the information I digest is important. And when such information could very likely endanger the life and career of a guy who did nothing more than make a joke, it's worth holding the publication's feet to the fire on their horrifying irresponsibility. The label "child molester", much like the label "terrorist", is an intensely charged accusation which needs to be reserved strictly for those who deserve such labels. And any publication who would so carelessly apply such terms to innocent people, while exhibiting a flat out refusal to correct their willingly inaccurate reporting, deserves all the contempt and hostility in the world.

And if that means someone has to dampen your happy reading time in order to point out the disgusting injustice, you're just going to have to deal with that.

“Clooney rapes teen.”

So where did they write “Stephano molests children”? They didn’t. The Geekosystem equivalent of your example would be more like “It is said that George Clooney raped a teen, this might be true”.

I hate to point this out to you (again), but “MIGHT” is not the same as “IS”. It is the difference between an accusation and a supposition.

“What’s more difficult about the situation is that Stephano is not famous enough for people to care to double check the accuracy of such a report…”

I agree and still don’t particularly care.

“…but famous enough for people to remember his name and perpetually believe him to be a child molester.”

I hadn’t ever heard of him before this article. Granted, I am not everyone but we can assume that this association will generally only have credence in the Starcraft online community. It’s not like Geekosystem have posted photos, his full name and address or anything, if other agencies have then go rant at them!

“We’re not talking about murky, grey economic arguments which are subject to a gradient of subjective perspectives,”

Really? Because that is what this has degenerated into; splitting hairs.

“we’re talking about whether or not somebody physically sat in a real life room and molested a child, a situation of which there is absolutely -> ZERO <- evidence to indicate that it ever took place"

… other than the accused saying that he did and that his own clan punished him for it? I can sort of see why the author was open to speculation…

I think his clan should actually be praised for taking this seriously acting so quickly. It says a lot about them even if this is untrue.

"Bias has absolutely nothing to do with it."

Bullshit! You are a Starcraft player and a fan, you like him enough to spend hours on some random website defending his corner, which is admirable but also very biased.

Are you saying that you would fight the good fight for any other slightly well-known player in a game you had never played before, when you had no idea what s/he was really like? That's bollocks.

"As a fan of Stephano" more like blind zealotry. No matter which way either of us spin this he was STILL the cause of it all. He is in a semi-public position. You talk of a journalists' ethic duty to be responsible for what they report, but isn't it equally true that those in the public eye are responsible for what they say or do?

Is this so dissimilar from Romney's 47% comment? Or, say Paris Hilton drink driving? Many agencies covered the story, but the fact remains – it was THE CELEBRATIES' fault for starting it all in the first place!

Isn't prevention is better than cure?

"The veracity of the information I digest is important."

And so too is the delivery. If you had expressed your opinion without looking down on other readers, without making your point in a way that appeared to sneer at us all, we would not be having this conversation right now. Hence my own little moral crusade to point this out to you and perhaps take you down a peg or two.

"And any publication who would so carelessly apply such terms to innocent people, while exhibiting a flat out refusal to correct their willingly inaccurate reporting, deserves all the contempt and hostility in the world."

Fine, so can you be hostile somewhere else? I'm getting sick of quoting you and pointing out all of the flaws.

"you're just going to have to deal with that" Just as you are going to have to put up with people occasionally getting annoyed enough to reply to your self-righteous rants.

“So where did they write ‘Stephano molests children’?”

When a publication says “There’s no reason not to believe ____.”, the message is that ____ is true. For instance: There’s no reason not to believe that the Earth revolves around the Sun. When a publication says “There’s no reason not to believe Stephano molested a child”, the message is that Stephano molested a child.

“…that is what this has degenerated into; splitting hairs.”

Haha, well I’m glad you finally admit that you’re just splitting hairs and that saying “there’s no reason not to believe Stephano molested a child” is in fact the same thing as saying “Stephano molested a child”. Thank you.

“Hence my own little moral crusade to point this out to you and perhaps take you down a peg or two.”

Well if you deem capricious internet comments worthy of a “moral crusade”, then I feel pretty secure in the worthiness of defending an innocent kid from being called a child molester. Now that you mention it, that does seem to be a great observation on the state of this argument. You’re spending your valuable time protesting annoying internet comments, and I’m spending my valuable time protesting the act of falsely accusing an innocent kid of molesting children.

“There’s no reason not to believe ____.”, the message is that ____ is true”

In YOUR opinion. It is not a universal truth, it is your own interpretation. As you might guess, my interpretation differs somewhat. :)

“the message is that Stephano molested a child”

Again splitting hairs, AGAIN your interpretation.

I get what you’re saying, I really do, but I have my own opinion and I refuse to change it. Your way of handling this rejection appears to be to repeat the same thing view again in exactly the same way. Guess what, I didn’t agree with it then, I don’t now.

Please, say it a few more times, I’m sure I will change my mind… No really.

“Haha, well I’m glad you finally admit that you’re just splitting hairs”

Okay, I’ll admit it, I just let out the longest and most exasperated sigh I’ve had in ages. You understand, I don’t just go around measuring the length of my sighs for sport or anything, but yes it lasted a good while… I shall keep you in mind if they ever make it an olympic sport.

I had to wonder if it is possible to bludgeon oneself to death with a facepalm…

“”there’s no reason not to believe Stephano molested a child” is in fact the same thing as saying “Stephano molested a child”"

But it does ___NOT___ say it! Thank you. (I copied your underliney bits so you would understand, see how great I am? :)

“Well if you deem capricious internet comments worthy of a “moral crusade”, then I feel pretty secure in the worthiness of defending an innocent kid from being called a child molester.”

So, in other words you talking a load of crap and spouting off is great as long as it is for a worthy cause? I suppose that’s alright, but I don’t really think he’s that worthy to be honest. If you replace “capricious” with “haughty” and you’d be half right.

“You’re spending your valuable time protesting annoying internet comments, and I’m spending my valuable time protesting the act of falsely accusing an innocent kid of molesting children.”

No, I’m having fun at your expense while you are spending all your time on a conversation that will only be read by the two of us.

It would actually be both sad and hilarious if he did turn out to be a child molester :)

Either way, I hope Emperor Stephano (PRAISE HIM!) knows what we endure on his behalf! I will definitely keep a look out for him now you’ve extolled his many virtues and told me how famous he is… Who knows I might actually meet him online, he might branch out a little and admit to killing bunnies. After all, there is no reason to bel… *gasp* That was a close one!

LOL okay, feel free to cut n paste the same old shit :P

What a stupid article. molested a little boy. you have got to be kidding me. learn to research a story and learn to write you fools.