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Uncategorized Friday, January 14th 2011 at 12:41 pm

Actually, Zodiac Signs Always Change and We’ve Always Known This

My friend called me last night and while we were discussing (what else?) Minecraft, she interjected with excitement, informing me about some crazy thing where everyone’s Zodiac signs are now different. I’m not a Taurus anymore, apparently I’m an Aries. I don’t care about astrology so much, but thought it was kind of weird that I now have to tell people who do care something different. It’s kind of like when you write dates after the New Year and keep messing up the year for a couple of months: Weird, but whatever, you get over it. I did, however, have fun for five minutes thinking, “I AM NOW ARIES, GOD OF WAR.” This new astrological sign reassignment took the Internet by storm and everyone thought this was some crazy new thing. It’s not, if you were wondering. Humans have apparently known about this all along. Allow us to explain.

Before we get to the simple answer of why the Internet freaked out, exactly what the Internet freaked out about should be explained, which also happens to be quite simple. The Zodiac is the plane of the Earth’s orbit around the sun as it is projected in the sky, with said projection being called the ecliptic. The Zodiac signs are supposed to be the twelve constellations that happen to cross the line that is the ecliptic. Each sign’s period of time is defined by when the sun appears to be “in” a constellation. Thing is, there are more than twelve constellations that cross the ecliptic. Say hi to Ophiuchus, the serpent bearer, the thirteenth constellation that crosses the ecliptic. Poor guy doesn’t count as a sign and he even occupies more of the ecliptic than his Zodiac buddy Scorpius. Some popular theories behind why Scorpius counts and Ophiuchus doesn’t are because Scorpius is much brighter, thus easier to see, coupled with the fact that twelve constellations correspond better to twelve months than thirteen constellations would. Essentially, Ophiuchus doesn’t count because he’s inconvenient.

(Fun side note: In the days of Undefinable Yore when astronomers defined the ecliptic’s boundaries, Scorpius actually fit into it better than Ophiuchus, but in modern times, Ophiuchus fits much better. And I know, I know: If they can change the signs’ dates and give everyone new signs, they could surely finagle the dates to include Ophiuchus.)

So! That simple part about why everyone’s astrological signs changed? Because the Earth wobbles on its axis over time, changing its position, thus changing where the stars appear to be in our sky. This is something that you already knew, but like the rest of us who aren’t astronomers, didn’t make the connection to the astrological implications, probably because you aren’t one to think you’re going to win the lottery based on–quite literally–how the stars align.

The funny thing is, people don’t really need to change their horoscopes or signs. The dates of when the sun is “in” a certain constellation have always been changing because the Earth always wobbles. Why don’t you remember hearing about the dates for the signs changing before, then, you ask? That’s because astrology is astrology, and adheres more to faith and beliefs than science. The signs haven’t constantly changed based on the dates the sun is “in” their constellations because they don’t need to for astrology to “work.” Astrology was based on the sun being “in” the constellations, but astrology broke off from the actual provable-with-facts science bit long ago and became its own thing. Words do this, too; over the course of time, they take on new meanings that the word didn’t encompass back when it was invented. Six-pack used to mean a pack of six, now it also refers to sexy abs. Heck, this even applies to niche terms, such as “gank,” which at one point meant to steal, but now also means to ambush.

That simple part about why everyone freaked out and news of changing Zodiac signs swept across the Internet? Because it’s the Internet, man. An article was posted on the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which featured an astronomer with one of the most fun names ever, Parke Kunkle, basically badmouthing astrology, and also using Ophiuchus as proof. He mentioned that dates of Zodiac signs have always shifted, because, again, the Earth wobbles, changing how the sky looks. Partly because of the social media times in which we live, and partly from experiencing random luck (like most things that explode across the Internet experience), the article got picked up on various outlets and the news trended across Twitter, and was twisted around a bit to say how the Zodiac signs are now different and nothing will ever be the same.

So, to join in on the Internet’s newest hot topic, we have our own theory to add to the fold. Final Fantasy Tactics is about stones that correspond to the Zodiac signs, called Zodiac Stones, pictured above. There is a summon in the game called Carbuncle, which sounds suspiciously similar to Parke Kunkle, the astronomer who inadvertently started this whole trend. Carbuncle casts Reflection on the players’ characters and allies. The moon, which plays a part in the Earth’s wobble and orbit, reflects the light of the sun, which dictates what Zodiac sign is when based on when it is “inside” a constellation. All the signs are clear. I think it’s pretty obvious that Parke Kunkle is Carbuncle. Go nuts with that, Internet.

(h/t Bad Astronomy)

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  • PillowCaseLaw

    You’re wrong on one point – most Western astrology (even the Babylonian system) doesn’t care about the proper “sun signs”. The tropical zodiac, the underpinning of the overwhelming majority of Western astrology, is pinned to the calendar year (specifically, the seasons) and is nothing more than a series of named date ranges. For example, Capricorn will *always* start on the winter solstice no matter what constellation the sun is “in”.

  • Anonymous

    I actually said something similar to that in a paragraph in the middle :).

  • Azrael_2

    Aries isn’t anything to do with the God of War, it’s Latin for ‘ram’. Where as Ares is the Greek God of war who becomes Mars in Roman mythology.

  • Micha

    HA! When I read the name Parke Kunkle I thought “hey his name sounds a lot like ‘Carbunkle’.”
    I was associating it with magicite from FFVI though ^_^.

  • Mariko

    From my knowledge of Astrology, no ones sign can change. The second we are born the universe takes a picture of itself and kind of attaches it to us. Plus everyone has more then one sign. There are Sun Signs, Ascending Signs, Moon Signs, and signs for just about every planet that are constantly affecting us. The sign we are is the sign we were born with, I don’t think the wobble of the Earth is going to change that. It might change what signs are affecting us at the time but it wont change our actual sign.

  • Marduk

    A greek or roman God (god) if you may who happens to count the Ram as one its symbosl ….. IDIOT …. hey you strike at it … it strikes back …

  • Marduk

    thats right let the unborn or rather the not yet born suffer the consequences. picture was taken 20 years ago. does it change at all (aside from thae fact that it fades and oh! photoshop …. this nevertheless is… well., maybe the most reasonable attitude to take on the matter … good Job ……

  • Fake_crash2001

    not to mention Final Fantasy 9 if not more of them included reference to Ophiuchus when you had to collect the special thirteenth zodiac coin, and Final Fantasy 12 had 12 summons plus a thirteenth, each one representing a sign in the zodiac…. so yeah actually your prediction about final fantasy is oddly right.

  • Anonymous

    You mean I’m not a Leo anymore?

  • MisterC

    Isn’t the internet great? Now the entire species (ALL of us) can efficiently apply flush-handles wherever needed, and move on with more important things. Perhaps someday before too long we can put a big enough handle on things like bigotry, prejudice and war, and really wrap our minds around the good stuff in a sustainable world.

  • Stickly

    Mariko, On what evidence can you support “The second we are born the universe takes a picture of itself and kind of attaches it to us.” and if “”The sign we are is the sign we were born with, I don’t think the wobble of the Earth is going to change that” it is true, why would the month matter and the position of the stars to the earth not matter? It WOULD MEAN that THAT is your sign. The wobble sounds stupid I give you that but it does change your sign. Just because you’ve been reading your horoscope and putting faith into it doesn’t mean it’s real. Now that your sign has changed you’re mad and reject the idea because you liked your original sign and because you are a creature of emotion not logic. Plus Horoscopes are….

  • Stickly

    The tropical system is so stupid. For one it ties in with the seasons, meaning, if you live in alaska and you are born in the summer you have a winter sign in america. It is completely inaccurate and is mainly perferred because it’s easier. Some Western astrologers choose to practice sidereal astrology, and criticise the tropical approach as erroneous because it does not align with the actual position of the stars. Sidereal astrologers also point out the absurdity of applying northern hemisphere seasons to the whole planet when there are now large populations within the southerm hemisphere who experience seasons six months apart from those in the north. Sidereal astrology ties its signs of the zodiac to the actual constellations

  • Dreamla

    It’s really sad to see people putting other people down like that. Whether you believe it or not. Whether you have evidence or not. AND whether you are a creature of logic, emotion, both or whatever.

  • Lool.

    Am I the only one who noticed that the picture spelled Taurus as Tauros, like the Pokemon?

  • Jridge101

    The tropical zodiac is what is used, however it is tied to the ecliptic not the season but they do coincide. We have the tropic of cancer in the northern hemisphere when the sun crosses it, then it is the time for the sun sign cancer. The other planets also appear on the ecliptic. There is also the tropic of Capricorn. The sun generally crosses it on the 21st of December. Because this is always varying there is a book produced called an ephemeris that plots all of the planets daily on the ecliptic. You will hear the weather guy on TV say, The first day of winter will be on the 22nd of December because it does change and if you are born, on a particular day, close to the edge of a sign you should have your calculation done. The calculation takes into account time, date and place of birth. Your particular view of the ecliptic and what sign is on the horizon when you were born.

    Footnote: The 21 of December is called epocgomine this is a hard word to reference, it is the time that the sun seems to stop moving for three days. Then the sun begins forward again. This is what the druids believed to be the rebirth of the planet. Christians think of it as Jesus being born. Ok so you didn’t want to know that.

    The ecliptic is divided into 30 degree increments, which are the 12 signs X 30 or 360 degrees of the globe. So tropical astrology is geocentric. Sidereal Astrology takes the sun as the center I have seen Astrologers in India use this system.

    I think Shakespeare said it best, “The fault is not in your stars but in yourself”

    It is fun and it will consume you too.,

  • Anonymous

    It’s spelled like that because it’s a picture of the Zodiac Stones from Final Fantasy Tactics :).

  • Sub Rosa

    In the Hermetic tradition, the Zodiac refers to certain regions of space named for constellations that were nearby these regions at the time of their naming. Therefore, the 12 Zodiac signs have nothing to do with the actual stars but with 12 equally sized sections of the cosmos. Hermetic astrology is based on how the planets move through these regions, not how the stars appear from Earth, so, despite the wobbling of the Earth that causes the constellations to change, the Zodiac remain fixed as does each planet’s procession through them. The wobble doesn’t actually affect anything.

  • Valdemorti

    “Someone’s zodiac sign is determined at your time of birth, so how can it change?”There is a way….zoodiac12.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/christinewheeler.stylist Christine Wheeler

    Your sign is the suns’s position at the time and location of your birth. Where the sun was when YOU were born, stays the same….

  • Dregan

    Actually he’s right, the position of the stars throughout the universe will never be quite the same as it was on the day you were born, and considering that ‘all matter exists by virtue of a frequency which causes atoms to vibrate’ (quote from Max Planck, progenitor of quantum theory) I wouldn’t think its too far fetched to say this has an imprinting effect on a newly birthed life form. Ask anyone who knows their astrology and they’ll tell you that what matters is the positioning of the stars in the instant you were born. Think of it as your cosmic fingerprint. 8)